Revamping the Novice guild's tutorial system

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Originally Posted by Crystal_Raven

Novice network to get people to learn?

http://https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lhckuhUxcgA

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That was a derp on my part. I meant to say the novice guild. Apologies it's been a long day. xD

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Originally Posted by Canadane

Hall of the Novice, as we have it now, unlocks the DF system in general, allowing you to progress your MSQ into Sastasha.

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Are you sure? I see plenty of people in dungeons who don't seem to know what it is and don't have the gear from it. IIRC you have to talk to the smith, but I don't think you have to actually do it. Great! do I have to roll another character to confirm this? :D

I cannot help and wonder if the whole Novice/Mentor system would even be missed if it just one day disappeared mysteriously.

We didn't start the game with it, we all seemed to get by just fine by playing the game and passively learning, making mistakes, and adjusting.

Heck, Megaman X has possibly one of the best tutorials in gaming history by sneaking in all of the learning instances into... well.. ...playing the game.

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Originally Posted by MsQi

It would be cool if there were further lessons as you level up. However, I think a lot of people ignore the Novice guild.

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Like a lot of things, it's introduced to the player at a time they can't make use of it and never mentioned again when they can so they forget it exists.

Definitely agree there need to be further lessons and not just later on for introducing mechanics.

Enmity - anyone not familiar with MMOs and the Holy Trinity is going to need help understanding this as a basic game mechanic. It doesn't help that you have to specifically enable the enmity bar in the party frame - why would you enable something when you don't understand its purpose? This needs to be introduced before doing the first dungeon. There needs to be a follow up lesson when jobs start getting their enmity reduction abilities.

Limit Break - if you are new to Final Fantasy games, Limit Break is a mystery. I can remember when I was first leveling and people in dungeons would tell me to lb. lb? What's that? I'm looking and my skills and abilities but my job has nothing with the initials lb. Eventually someone was kind enough to explain it to me. I had no idea that Limit Break existed until that point because it only gets a vague one sentence mention in Active Help when you do your first dungeon - and the last thing you're going to do at that point is waste time thoroughly reading the Active Help window as the rest of the group has already run off to kill stuff. Even if you do read it, the sentence is something like "Limit Break is a powerful ability shared by the group that can be used to help defeat more difficult monsters".

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Originally Posted by Neoyoshi

I cannot help and wonder if the whole Novice/Mentor system would even be missed if it just one day disappeared mysteriously.

We didn't start the game with it, we all seemed to get by just fine by playing the game and passively learning, making mistakes, and adjusting.

Heck, Megaman X has possibly one of the best tutorials in gaming history by sneaking in all of the learning instances into... well.. ...playing the game.

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Well Megaman X is an offline action platformer.Sure it had an excellent tutorial stage but there is a huge difference between teaching people in a platformer compared to a MMORPG