Make Viera and Hrothgar non-binary / gender-neutral?

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

This gives a more gender-doesn't-matter option.

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But genders matter in Viera lore, a lot actually.

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

It's all about flexibility.

For example you can make a Viera with almost no chest, long hair, but a slightly masculine face. Could be a bunny boy. Could be a bunny girl. Could be bunny neutral. All up to you.

Can have the lore say that Viera have their own sense of fashion for all genders. So if you're playing as a "bunny boy" it still uses female gear models in the game.

It would actually be really cool because we already have lots of male and female options.
This gives a more gender-doesn't-matter option.

And same for a female-esque hrothgar.

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Whew, lad...that's a topic I didn't think someone was bold enough to submit. I see where you're going with this, but I'm going to say that this just ain't gonna happen. It would take up way more time than just having what they're able to work with now. As one user said, this is a can of worms that's best left unopened.

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Originally Posted by WhiteArchmage

As non-binary, I would be okay with it and it would save me a fortune on Fantasias. However, I agree that: a) it would take too much dev time and resources to alter both races' bodies to be gender-neutral or fluid, and b) it would bring out a lot of hate from the crowd that gets triggered at anything that doesn't conform to gender norms.

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If they don't change the body types it won't take many resources at all. of course it would be awesome if they had a more gender-neutral/fluid body type. But it should still be ok to keep the existing body types since they are both fantasy races.

And i don't think people getting triggered should prevent a game from adding a feature that gives people more options.
This isn't taking anything away from anyone. Just giving people more choice. Choice = good.

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Originally Posted by Tharne

But genders matter in Viera lore, a lot actually.

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Given that Viera society is an inherently matriarchal society where the males are just used for breeding and defence, I would say that gender does indeed matter in Viera society.

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Originally Posted by Tharne

But genders matter in Viera lore, a lot actually.

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from ff wiki: "Final Fantasy XIV gives exposition to the elusive male viera, who are virtually identical at birth to females; only upon maturing they are able to be identified gender wise."

So there is lore saying they are almost identical.
Can make up lore saying that some males choose to dress/live as "females" to remain with them. And others choose to be more masculine and leave.

I think you've completely misunderstood the problem.

Can we not?

I distinctly remember several months ago someone creating the pronoun thread and how well do you think that went down? Pretty sure it doesn't exist anymore. The solution would've been to simply release either one race both genders or better yet, both races and both genders (considering the amount of work involved uh).

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Originally Posted by Azurymber

from ff wiki: "Final Fantasy XIV gives exposition to the elusive male viera, who are virtually identical at birth to females; only upon maturing they are able to be identified gender wise."

So there is lore saying they are almost identical.
Can make up lore saying that some males choose to dress/live as "females" to remain with them. And others choose to be more masculine and leave.

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Same lore is also stating that when the Male Viera come to breed they take every boy having reach maturity as wards.

As someone who is essentially anti SJW I kind of think this would be a neat idea. The problem is that this would actually take more resources then just adding the two genders.

Hmm....
I dunno...