Yotsuyu, Fordola, syndrom of "a good writting"? (spoil)

I loathe Lyse (whilst being mildly amused by Yda.) Personally, I enjoyed the Yotsuyu arc, though I agree it could have been ended in the Castle for both her and Gosetsu. The fight was great but was more than anything else a visual representation of a story we already knew. She was a very enjoyable villain..

That said, with a certain other Scion's return, perhaps Lyse will be given room to breathe again and not be her second, even more annoying version.

Meh.

Yotsuyu : Women vilain who get amnesia, she's a good girls, she was abused so she became evil. Served with the subtility of a bull inside a china shop.

Fordola : Classic traitor who redemn herself acting like a tsundere "I didn't do it for you Warrior of light-senpai".

Both was predictable as a straight line and prove one more time that FFXIV is a modern Final Fantasy : Who care about well written story when you can just shove up cliché in a jar and call it a story.

The Warrior of Light has slaughtered far more individuals than both Fordola and Yotsuyu combined. It just so happens that people cheer on such carnage so long as the 'right' targets are dehumanised.

Yotsuyu was really disappointing.

If her backstory was slowly revealed while she was still in a position of power it would have eased you into the "tragic villain" thing they were aiming for. Instead they just kind of dumped all of it on you after she became Tsuyu and promptly died like 10 quests later. It was a very hamfisted "oh no I did bad things because I suffered bad things please feel bad for me".
I was also hoping the kind of experiences she went through would make Hien take a deeper look into how his country and society works so there'd never be another Yotsuyu. Instead he just completely forgot everything that happened and life goes on as usual.

Fight was cool though.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

It's been a thing in Final Fantasy games for as long as they've existed. It's why a lot of us are very fond of the franchise in the first place. By your logic, characters such as Kain, Golbez, Rufus, Seifer, Gabranth and Beatrix would be cut down where they stood for their shadier actions. If such an approach had been embraced, the games they showed up in would not be nearly so memorable.

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Not at all what I said, but sure whatever.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

The Warrior of Light has slaughtered far more individuals than both Fordola and Yotsuyu combined. It just so happens that people cheer on such carnage so long as the 'right' targets are dehumanised.

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Excluding Primals (who technically can't be killed anyway) and otherwordly beings, WoL's body count is low. Even the people you'd bank on the WoL getting the kill from a narrative standpoint either took their own lives instead (Ilberd, Zenos) or survived anyway (Gaius, Zenos).

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

Excluding Primals (who technically can't be killed anyway) and otherwordly beings, WoL's body count is low. Even the people you'd bank on the WoL getting the kill from a narrative standpoint either took their own lives instead (Ilberd, Zenos) or survived anyway (Gaius, Zenos).

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I dunno, we have killed at least 200 people just doing the duties in the storyline once.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

Excluding Primals (who technically can't be killed anyway) and otherwordly beings, WoL's body count is low. Even the people you'd bank on the WoL getting the kill from a narrative standpoint either took their own lives instead (Ilberd, Zenos) or survived anyway (Gaius, Zenos).

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I wasn't solely referring to major characters. The kill count is extremely high if you consider every sentient combatant to ever show up as an opponent in a quest or dungeon.

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Originally Posted by FeliAiko

Excluding Primals (who technically can't be killed anyway) and otherwordly beings, WoL's body count is low. Even the people you'd bank on the WoL getting the kill from a narrative standpoint either took their own lives instead (Ilberd, Zenos) or survived anyway (Gaius, Zenos).

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Good point. Though the WoL's unofficial kill count can vary from player to player. The WoL has been in more battles than can be counted, and some may even blame him/her even though the killing blow didn't come from the WoL directly. Since many have stepped forward to let the WoL know how he/she has helped/saved them in the past, it would be really interesting if a particular NPC has a serious disdain for the WoL and we just have no idea why; only to find out later that it was somebody's husband/wife/son/daughter that died during one of their many battles. Actually, I'm pretty curious if there is a side quest I haven't done that addresses this already??

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Originally Posted by NessaWyvern

I dunno, we have killed at least 200 people just doing the duties in the storyline once.

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Stuff like dungeon mobs can be left open to interpretation, so I make it a point to separate gameplay elements from the story. For all we know the WoL could've just incapacitated most non-major characters instead (same way that if you die in a dungeon you don't actually die, you just got knocked out).