I think it's hasty to call Hrothgar a lion race, especially when the lion race is only a rumor, the name was without much context besides being paired with a mention of Viera, and the name additionally comes from Beowulf as that of the king in the early parts of the story. So until we have more context, which I'm fine with waiting to JP fanfest or the expansion, let's not jump the gun and say it's the new race.
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So what is a Hrothgar?
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02-15-2019, 11:39 AMAster_E
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02-15-2019, 11:44 AMSkeith9This is a Hrothgar thread, please keep the meta about the gender-lock thread in the gender lock thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penthea
Anyways. I have this my image in my head of muscles somewhere between M Au Ra and Roegadyn. Bulky but not a brick house. -
02-15-2019, 11:47 AMDuskaneHrothgar are possible to fall under the same gender lock issue so its clearly welcomed hereQuote:
Originally Posted by Skeith9
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02-15-2019, 11:51 AMAvenoMatt
I don't know how I feel about this. If it's an entirely separate race with males and females then good if it's ends up that they are male only and viera are female only I feel cheated. I've been wanting male viera in game for years. So if I don't get my bunny bois then hopefully I end up liking this other race buf if not then I'll only have DNC to look forward to. Don't disappoint me Square :cry:
Like to add that a part of me is also thinking that maybe it was a mistake and the Hrothgar are the name of one of the dwarven clans. -
02-15-2019, 11:55 AMPentheaLol, you do realise it's highly likely this race will be gender locked if viera is? Right?Quote:
Originally Posted by Skeith9
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02-15-2019, 11:57 AMHeliantheaeIt'll be great if it was a Dragonborn race from D&D and we're getting the more draconic AuRa from the concept art.Quote:
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02-15-2019, 12:03 PMDuskane
Highly likely that hrothgar are lion people since leaks plus mention of a mane
But there is a species of Wolf,Rabbit,monkey,horse and a jellyfish with manes
I know we have lupin but it be cool to have another type of wolf people and its not too farfetched since Amaljia are like lizards and Au ra have some reptilian features -
02-15-2019, 12:14 PMredcurrant18
Some lion references that have been noted by other posters in the forums and the Gender Lock Thread are:
-The Lion Creature from the trailer that Thancred fights (in an outfit reminiscent of Seifer from FF8?)
-The fact that Kuribu is derived from a sphinx like creature in ancient mythology (that SE turned into the Angel Goddess)
-Squall's "Lionheart" gunblade
-Griever, a summon/GF associated with Squall is a lion
-Hrothgar is the name of a king from northern Europe, which people have been associating with the Ronso due to the fact they live in similar cold climates
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02-15-2019, 12:19 PMCidelYes, it is. I've poked my head into that thread several times and based on comments throughout (not all, but a lot), it's central focus has consistently been about male viera. Anything remotely "pro-male viera" in there gets showered with 'likes.' Let discussion about a different race have a chance here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Penthea
If that was the case, people shouldn't have made such a big case for viera as a playable race when they're literally represented throughout the series they appear in as practically "all female," regardless of what their lore writes just to enforce that males exist for reproduction and what-not. The issue I see is that people want to interpret viera lore in a way that agrees with what they want to see and suits their narrative. If the devs decide to not give male viera for their own reasons, then that's fine with me- let them preserve their stance on what they want their viera to be in the franchise. If they do give viera male, then whatever, the pandering continues. I'm curious to see what this Hrothgar is, give it a chance, and see how original it is for XIV. If they're making viera all-female and this new Hrothgar all-male, I am fine with that since it's not as if the gender ratio has been made lopsided.Quote:
Players have hated gender locked races consistently for years and in far more than just this game. It's not about wanting bunny bois, it's about having the same racial choices presented to you regardless of the gender of your character. I don't plan on ever playing a male viera but I 100% support having them in the game because I don't want other players to be deprived of this choice.
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02-15-2019, 12:29 PMPentheaHave you not considered that the focus is like this because it is a new race? People always bring up the gender locked races in 1.0 and FFXI and how badly they were received when talking about viera. I am astonished you managed to miss the multitude of the posts with these comments. If you think the gender locking conversation is only due to some weird fixation on bunny men then I have to assume you haven't been paying as much attention as you claim.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cidel
And yet in lore male miqo'te are rarely seen but among the playerbase they're extremely popular. Never mind how in 1.0 that race gender combo was unplayable. So if players can play the once unplayable "rare" male miqo'te, then why can't they also play the rare male viera? Why the double-standard?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cidel
You're also forgetting that SE own all the FF lore so they can change it any way they please. And they certainly have done so many times already. A lot of what they borrowed from other FF games isn't used in the exact same way in FFXIV. If SE don't introduce male viera it would be because they don't want to. Not because they cannot.