Please no more Eureka!

I quite liked Eureka up to the random stats stage. I even enjoyed pagos. Finding groups to power through it was a bit like "brothers in arms" we had a bond you had to be in Eureka pagos pre-fate train or pre light buffs to understand. It put into perspective when people moan they can't get to fates in time..we'll in the first few weeks fates weren't even spawning so be grateful you have them to miss out on lol

Also, what's with the surge in threads lately where it's a case of "my opinion is important and deserves its own thread" lately? Couldn't you have said this in the original thread titled "Please god no" or whatever it's called. Especially since devs apparantely respond to larger threads it would help the cause to get a response too.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

I just don't get all of this vehement aggression towards it.

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It's because they locked the relic behind it. Take the relic out of it and put something specific to Eureka in there, and there wouldn't have been the amount of venom that there is. As long as they kept the ilvl equal to or under relic anyway. BiS gear locked exclusively behind content like Eureka would never go over well.

Eureka's problems have mostly been that they've pretty much taken the worst parts of a lot of systems, and put them together.

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Originally Posted by Gralna

I just don't get all of this vehement aggression towards it.

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It is because content was taken away from the average player and shoved into Eureka as a carrot to get people to do. Not because Eureka was fun for them and they liked Eureka, but because Eureka couldn't stand on its own and they had to put something people really wanted inside of it to force people to play Eureka. Then, when all is said and done and even though a lot of people disliked it they can say that it was a success because people begrudgingly played it. Meanwhile, for people that liked the relic weapon and doing it but also dislike the playstyle of Eureka, they just lost content altogether.

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Originally Posted by AnimaAnimus

It's because they locked the relic behind it. Take the relic out of it and put something specific to Eureka in there, and there wouldn't have been the amount of venom that there is. As long as they kept the ilvl equal to or under relic anyway. BiS gear locked exclusively behind content like Eureka would never go over well.

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This. Locking something like that (And other stuff like emotes and hairstyles) behind it for me just feels like they're trying to force and manipulate players into having to go there whether they want to or not. Want this Expansion's Relic? Well, tough luck, you're going to have to spend hours upon hours locked in this content that is totally different to everything else in the game, whether you like it or not.

I came late to Eureka and I really, really hate it. It's not the design of the zone (very nice), the mobs and their challenges (different then the base game). It's the fact that this is so clearly designed to be tackled by groups of people that have your same level of progress. This might work at the start of a new zone or in Japan where people a groups together more then in the West but falls apart very bad here.
Starting a new zone is extremely frustrating for new player (unless you have friend on a higher level that can protect/teleport/rez you) as everything kills you extremely fast while progress as a solo player is extremely slow. Creating such a system without any ingame means of grouping players was the greatest drawback of Eureka.

This was asked at Fan Fest and they acknowledged the problem but can't do anything anymore for Eureka (understandably) but plan to adapt for the next version in 5.0.

I mostly liked Eureka, but I don't really want them to do it again in the next expansion. The main problem I have with it is that they are so good at creating instanced battles and dungeons with scripted content, but they keep insisting on creating this type of grind content and annoying random content like deep dungeon. Basically, a bit of grindy content like Eureka is fun once in a while but I don't want it every expansion.

No more eureka.

I stopped the content during anemos, the premise was draining and the grind crushing. It physically hurt people.


I think people should care about that last point a little more. The grind was so bad people hurt their hands doing it. Even if you patch that out that is a negative experience that isn’t—shouldn’t—-be brushed off.

Why would you not like Eureka? It's a collaboration with Cookie Clicker, and since it's a collaboration, it's good. And plot will explain it.

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Originally Posted by BubblyBoar

Meanwhile, for people that liked the relic weapon and doing it but also dislike the playstyle of Eureka, they just lost content altogether.

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You didn't lose content, you lost a reward. Past relics were basically Tome Farming, and tome farming is still in the game, and already provides the overall best casual weapon. However, people that are bored of tome farming after several years of it actually gained a "new" content.

Also, saying that Eureka only survived because people wanted the rewards there is a nonsense. Every content only survives because people want something there. The only exception is the extremely small part of the playerbase that actually runs Savage and Ultimate for the competitive aspect even after they have all the items they need.

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Originally Posted by number473

The main problem I have with it is that they are so good at creating instanced battles and dungeons with scripted content

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Frankly, I felt the dungeons were really bland, especially considering they could have done something much more interesting lorewise with The Burn and Ghimlyt Dark. As for instance battes, we have more of them in SB than what we had in HW, so it's not like they sacrificed it for Eureka.