Griever

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Originally Posted by Enkidoh

I agree it's somewhat of a cliched class, and you're right in it being effectively redundant - there are already gunblade-like weapons in the game (Lightning's Blazefire Sabre from FFXIII is a GLA/PLD sword and many of the MCH's 'knifelock' type guns look like gunblades with a long bayonet attached to the barrel), so it's really superflorous anyway. But I guess we'll find out one way or the other in the next couple of months.

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And yet we have Jobs that effectively use identical weapons (WHMs Canes and BLM Staves being virtually identical in form) and yet have vastly differing unique gameplay styles, not only in the spells being cast but also the animations of those spells.

So sure, we have a 'gunblade like' glamor options, but lets be real fair, a gun with a bayonet isn't a Gunblade. The Lightning one is probably the only real Gunblade glamor option. Just because we have glamor options that mimic another weapon type (DRK Club for example) doesn't automatically preclude them from adding a Job that uses that mimic weapon as a fullblown Job.

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Originally Posted by Sylve

And yet we have Jobs that effectively use identical weapons (WHMs Canes and BLM Staves being virtually identical in form) and yet have vastly differing unique gameplay styles, not only in the spells being cast but also the animations of those spells.

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Grimoires and Codices too.

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Originally Posted by Uielyave

..Was gunblade actually confirmed? I personally think it's a stupid idea for a class. You have Machinist, you dont need an entire class surrounding a stupid and impractical weapon like "Gunblade". Rdm and Machinist fit in to those roles anyway, RDM beign ranged + melee and Machinist having Guns.

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As a DPS, I'd agree, however it'd be a interesting and popular tank class to mix up the current selection of 'angry' and 'magic' big slasher jobs.
So yeah, this is precisely why I dont want it to be a DPS class.

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Originally Posted by Uielyave

..Was gunblade actually confirmed? I personally think it's a stupid idea for a class. You have Machinist, you dont need an entire class surrounding a stupid and impractical weapon like "Gunblade". Rdm and Machinist fit in to those roles anyway, RDM beign ranged + melee and Machinist having Guns.

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With Thancred running around with a gunblade in the trailer, it's highly assumed that it will be a class.

I want the gunblade job to be a DPS... if it is you guys can have every other job that comes out after as a tank or healer... pretty please? :)

Honestly, tho, wtf was even the deal with Griever? "That pendant that has been completely inconsequential to the game? Yeah, let's turn it into a big monster boss."

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Honestly, tho, wtf was even the deal with Griever? "That pendant that has been completely inconsequential to the game? Yeah, let's turn it into a big monster boss."

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It was the name of the Lion on Squalls Ring, etching on Squall's Gunblade, and on his Gunblade case. In the final fight Ultemicia looked into Squall's mind and made it real as her GF. Maybe she thought Squall wouldn't be able to kill something he loved or maybe she thought something from the person that beat her would be strong enough to beat them. But it looked really cool.

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Originally Posted by Hasrat

Honestly, tho, wtf was even the deal with Griever? "That pendant that has been completely inconsequential to the game? Yeah, let's turn it into a big monster boss."

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I agree. But if Ultimecia was Rinoa it would make sense for her to summon Squall's spirit animal and that plot point would serve the purpose of making that connection. But I won't open that can of worms here, I don't think Griever being summoned means much lol

He still looks cool though, and I wouldn't mind seeing him as a trial.

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Originally Posted by Burningskull

It was the name of the Lion on Squalls Ring, etching on Squall's Gunblade, and on his Gunblade case. In the final fight Ultemicia looked into Squall's mind and made it real as her GF. Maybe she thought Squall wouldn't be able to kill something he loved or maybe she thought something from the person that beat her would be strong enough to beat them. But it looked really cool.

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It was Squalls idol, it personified strength for him, so therefore followed that in his mind it would be the most powerful creature and he'd be unable to beat it.
The symbolism is about him holding himself to an unattainably high benchmark, that he's unable to accomplish on his own.

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Originally Posted by TheHeavenAbyss

I agree. But if Ultimecia was Rinoa it would make sense for her to summon Squall's spirit animal and that plot point would serve the purpose of making that connection. But I won't open that can of worms here, I don't think Griever being summoned means much lol

He still looks cool though, and I wouldn't mind seeing him as a trial.

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The japanese script literally says she reads Squalls mind and thats how she summons Griever, absolutely no need to her to be Rinoa and cause the plot hole of her killing her younger self, while defeating the point of the core themes of the game.