My issue with Pyros (and Pagos to a slight extent)

I think Pyros does not require party content, and people just wander / slack / spawn until NM pop, group, down it, degroup, repeat. But the area is designed for that. Being low level, you can easily reach all NM except maybe Glaukosomething and Pentesilea (although people will raise on the way for this one). All other NM are close to aetherites, and they don't request high level to let you attune. Also NM give LOTS of XP compared to Pagos, so you feel like you "have" to do them to level up.

Whereas Pagos is putting clear obstacles to that progression we had in Anemos and now in Pyros by the map itself and the poor XP gain per NM. A few days ago, I assisted to a really heated argument in Pagos about (not) waiting walkers for upper Pagos NM. Higher level people were angry to wait for low levels because they do no damage to NMs and slow the fate grinding for each NM. I think players want to impose some kind of unique pattern on all eureka zones though they were not developed with the same ideas in mind, and it is obvious in Pagos.

IMO Pyros feels a bit more individual (as logos system basically allows you to do a lot on your own), but I never actually got any problems to join or form a group and do NMs or spawning for high level fates. And I also met funny and nice people as I did in Anemos and Pagos, which is what I like the most in Eureka, compared to FFXIV in general.

Low levels shouldn't be camping at icepoint if they want to get northern NM's. At the least if they are going to camp they should be at or around Igloo given it puts them north and well within reach of both East and West NM's when they spawn. That camp spot is good when you have a return handy for low level spawns. If you have no return I would recommend camping the small elevated area just above the Northern bunny fate given there is a shortcut drop down to low level areas there.

People are just not going to wait for low levels to run up North for fate pops.

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Originally Posted by LaylaTsarra

Low levels shouldn't be camping at icepoint if they want to get northern NM's. At the least if they are going to camp they should be at or around Igloo given it puts them north and well within reach of both East and West NM's when they spawn. That camp spot is good when you have a return handy for low level spawns. If you have no return I would recommend camping the small elevated area just above the Northern bunny fate given there is a shortcut drop down to low level areas there.

People are just not going to wait for low levels to run up North for fate pops.

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Exactly. Even when I was one of those low levels, I tried to figure out where people were headed and got there asap. It's all about position and timing...until an NM spawns all the way across the map from you, but that's a whole other thing.