Please Remove Leve Allowances

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Originally Posted by Merceus

I like the idea of overlapping leves! That sounds epic and like great gameplay!

"Start X combat leve, get 1. Start Y gathering leve, get 2. Start Z crafting leve and use 1+2 to get EXP/item" and that could be done without having to bottleneck it behind leves.

One of the things I've learned is, while I wanted to level everything together, I didn't have the levels for that. So I started working on one specific job at a time and it seems to be more the way it was intended to be done.

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I think you'll find that slight paradox across most of the game. Crafting requires omnicrafting to be self-sufficient, but the leve count is insufficient to feel like you're progressing as a whole off them (it most just keeps the lagging profession kept up). Having all jobs on one character is a chief selling point of the game, one of its few true unique standings, yet... progression requires you to pick one gear class and stick with it to compete.

I wish that wasn't the case. I wish we actually got to retain that initial freedom.

Perhaps they should remove the allowances in irrelivant content. You don't have allowances in arr and heavensward, but you do in stormblood and shadowbringers. However as a consiquence xp is halved? Even at the half rate it beats digging up cobalt for fifty hours at 300 xp a hit. Or building 4k saws at 3k each. Leves also give a pretty severe gear hit, at least on gathering. With current gear I have never gotten above 70% chance to get something. It was this way all the way til the end of stormblood. So you are sucking down cordials like a whino chugs whisky. Something I would like to see is gather points work like crafting points. They recharge at each plant/vein.

I wrote this in another thread about Leves and Allowances, so forgive me for reposting, but doing so for visibility and furthering the discussion.

I am a new player and the timegating on Levemete Allowances is killing me. It just reminds me of the timegated quests in WoW, which I hated with a vengeance. I would very much like to do the Achievements for Levemetes, but having to wait for new Allowances is extremely discouraging.
Might I suggest changing something like the Venture currency to where you can choose to purchase a Venture with your Retainers, or, purchase an additional Levemete Allowance on a 1-to-1 exchange.

EDIT: I understand that Levemetes can be quite rewarding, which is why I am suggesting a solution where you actually have to play and collect Venture coins instead of removing the timegating entirely.

Considering how easily one can acquire ventures there would have to be some serious nerfs to leves. I can cap out my gc seals in about 15 minutes which I can turn around and spend on ventures for 200 seals each. This suggestion is also a lot more restrictive to lower level players who can’t as easily grind out gc seals, considering you need a certain company rank to be able to turn in items. Low level players, the ones that need leves the most, would have the most difficult time acquiring them.

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Originally Posted by Eclipse12187

This suggestion is also a lot more restrictive to lower level players who can’t as easily grind out gc seals, considering you need a certain company rank to be able to turn in items.

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So this solution is not usable by freshly made bots and you will have had to make a serious ingame commitment before getting to exchange the currency? Ok why is that a problem?

Bots aren’t making gil from levequests that’s for sure, they make their gil by gathering and selling crystals and just outright doing msq that loads you up with gil and allagan pieces. It takes a little under 2 weeks to get max leve allowances currently and the only ones worth doing for gil are in shadowbringers, and even then that’s a little over 1mil for 100 allowances. There are much more lucrative ways to earn gil than doing levequests.

But the gil making is exactly why leve allowances can't be removed. Or they could remove the leve allowances but they would also need to remove the gil reward and probably would reduce the XP rewarded as well.

Also, RMT bots wouldn't bother with leves but "personal" bots for lazy players wanting a shortcut? Definitely can see that being done.

Removing the limit on leves might work as long as they only reward XP and nothing else. If I were able to spam an unlimited number of leves at 6000 Gil per (triple HQ Coffee Biscuit) turn in, I'd do that all day long.

I can't really speak to DoW/DoM leveling with leves, but with the exception of a rare few, you're better off spamming Collectibles to level your DoH. As a side benefit, you'll level your DoL at the same time from gathering all the materials for it. No joking, this is hands-down he best way I've found to level all DoH/DoL/omnicraft.

<edit> Having leves reward Venture Tokens would be pretty cool.

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Originally Posted by Illmaeran

Removing the limit on leves might work as long as they only reward XP and nothing else. If I were able to spam an unlimited number of leves at 6000 Gil per (triple HQ Coffee Biscuit) turn in, I'd do that all day long.

I can't really speak to DoW/DoM leveling with leves, but with the exception of a rare few, you're better off spamming Collectibles to level your DoH. As a side benefit, you'll level your DoL at the same time from gathering all the materials for it. No joking, this is hands-down he best way I've found to level all DoH/DoL/omnicraft.

<edit> Having leves reward Venture Tokens would be pretty cool.

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Leves in Stormblood and Shadowbringers offer significantly more XP if you're turning in HQ than collectables do. If your goal is to get to max level as fast as possible, using up your leve allowances before turning to collectables is the way to go. The gil rewards make them even better if you have a need for gil (and help to cover the costs if you don't gather materials yourself).

Collectables have the advantage of offering scrip you'll need for master books and folklore tomes so you can have a heads start on those. Or if you don't care about end game crafting/gathering but want the Skybuilder cosmetics, you can do the Restoration collectables instead. But if you're not gathering your own materials, you'll have to come up with the gil to pay for them from other sources.

There are trade-offs whichever route you choose but when the only concern is XP, do leves first.

That one would, in one fell swoop, completely anihilate the Gil market by flooding it with Coffee Cookie gil.