Respectfully The Lack of a Party Level Sync option in Eureka is Upsetting...

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Originally Posted by Delmontyb

What? Respectfully, I don't understand your argument. Why are you against level sync for those who want it, especially because it's not a major development effort (level sync already exists in this game)? If you don't need it, that's fine, but there are a lot of us who do and would take part in this content more if we had the ability to group up. :)

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I think you misunderstand something. I'm not against sync, Sync is already incorporated in the fate system and people who think outside the box can use this to their advantage. Problem is people all that really care about is NM train. Eventually the will most likely incorporate a sync system. for now people have to be creative. Kind of the solo light farming chain technique.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

Health competition involves, you know, playing content together. I compete with my static mates for pretty parses but I'm also playing with them. You can't do that in Eureka if you're too high above your friends. Both you and them will get next to nothing in terms of EXP, thus the game—a MMO, which is designed for socialization—actively encourages people not to socialize even with their own friend circles unless you all do the content at the same time. If something comes up or one person has more time to play than another, you're either forced to wait or leave them behind so now they can't party with you anymore.

This whole "follower/leader" drivel is simply that: drivel to defense poorly designed content. When FATEs have a level sync system, Eureka has no excuse except the devs have terrible foresight.

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Ever wonder why rabbit fates did not give xp? yet can sync and actually any level members can earn xp and chain to 30 rapidly? In a way it's a way to level up really fast and light farm if people know the technique and are creative. If people think outside the box they can also solo challenge book. See solo light farming technique.

As for whole leader and follower thing if you really can't understand a simple concept I can't help you. We all have standards and I don't mean to belittle anyone, that is not the intent, however people have standards on friendships. We can all claim we don't yet deep down we know we do judge. I just tend to befriend people who don't hold back and tell it how it is rather than hypocrites who claim and flaw the word friendship around.

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Ever wonder why rabbit fates did not give xp? yet can sync and actually any level members can earn xp and chain to 30 rapidly? In a way it's a way to level up really fast and light farm if people know the technique and are creative. If people think outside the box they can also solo challenge book. See solo light farming technique.

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The bunny FATE didn't give EXP because the devs assumed people gave a damn about the pointless treasure they dropped. Players found a workaround to their poor design in the same manner the Anemos train was a workaround. This isn't thinking outside the box, it's finding workarounds. The devs didn't intend for people to camp bunny FATEs so level 35 players could kill level 24 Wolves. That's just what people did because it worked.

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

Ever wonder why rabbit fates did not give xp? yet can sync and actually any level members can earn xp and chain to 30 rapidly? In a way it's a way to level up really fast and light farm if people know the technique and are creative. If people think outside the box they can also solo challenge book. See solo light farming technique.

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With regards to the Bunny FATEs, reading comments from Reddit point to the conclusion that, while it does give EXP now, it doesn’t give light—so your light farming aspect of farming the FATE is out if that is true. I believe that light-farming in Pagos is still best when done with mob-chaining. And I believe you don’t have to be eLevel 35 to farm light, so allowing for a Party Sync feature so that higher-level friends can help their lower-level friends chain mobs at the lower-level friends’ level would be an amazing feature. Not some half-arsed concoction that players had to come up with because the developers are too stubborn to deviate from their “vision for the content”.

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

As for whole leader and follower thing if you really can't understand a simple concept I can't help you. We all have standards and I don't mean to belittle anyone, that is not the intent, however people have standards on friendships. We can all claim we don't yet deep down we know we do judge. I just tend to befriend people who don't hold back and tell it how it is rather than hypocrites who claim and flaw the word friendship around.

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I have no idea why this conversation is even relevant to people asking for a Party Sync feature so that they can play with their friends. That is literally all people are asking for, and, even if the system itself was a tricky one to implement at the time of request, it has now been several months since then. So, what’s the excuse now?

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

The bunny FATE didn't give EXP because the devs assumed people gave a damn about the pointless treasure they dropped. Players found a workaround to their poor design in the same manner the Anemos train was a workaround. This isn't thinking outside the box, it's finding workarounds. The devs didn't intend for people to camp bunny FATEs so level 35 players could kill level 24 Wolves. That's just what people did because it worked.

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This is what I am referring to about thinking outside the box. You use fate as a sync as mob dies to get faster lights. Kill at normal levels party syncs as it dies everyone gets credit and chance at lights including new born star based on weather and adaptation. You get better xp and lights. have you ever wondered why people of high levels are killing mobs around bunny fates? It's light farming, can get 6-9 bars in an hour or so. Same as complete books and rack up the xp than waiting afk for NM train like most people do. Way faster than forge or Dragon killing.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

With regards to the Bunny FATEs, reading comments from Reddit point to the conclusion that, while it does give EXP now, it doesn’t give light—so your light farming aspect of farming the FATE is out if that is true. I believe that light-farming in Pagos is still best when done with mob-chaining. And I believe you don’t have to be eLevel 35 to farm light, so allowing for a Party Sync feature so that higher-level friends can help their lower-level friends chain mobs at the lower-level friends’ level would be an amazing feature. Not some half-arsed concoction that players had to come up with because the developers are too stubborn to deviate from their “vision for the content”.

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My God this is why I say people need to have quality friendships, Bunny fates are used to farm lights not xp and junk, see previous comment below. Those bunny fates help get items for crafting or furnishing, some have items for optical hat item needed. Players who realize this are mainly have all items for relics except either ice or crystals from fates. Forge ones are the easiest ones to get if done properly.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

I have no idea why this conversation is even relevant to people asking for a Party Sync feature so that they can play with their friends. That is literally all people are asking for, and, even if the system itself was a tricky one to implement at the time of request, it has now been several months since then. So, what’s the excuse now?

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You can still play with your friends, how you play with them makes a difference. Everyone has their perspectives and this is why people complain that the game is hard when in fact it is not. People nerf it to the point where it's way too easy. Lets face the facts if people can't co-ordinate with their friends on when to do things together, is do to RL. People have a life outside of FF. Some of us just use time more productively than others. I work 2 jobs, go to school, have a GF and still able to get things done. I help my acquaintances when I'm in game if they ask for help. So I still am able to play with them. With that being said I'm only able to help them better because I pretty much did the hard work and we discuss our findings. I hate carrying people, yet I will help those who ASK for help.

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

My God this is why I say people need to have quality friendships

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What does this statement have to do with anything I wrote?

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Originally Posted by ManuelBravo

You can still play with your friends, how you play with them makes a difference. Everyone has their perspectives and this is why people complain that the game is hard when in fact it is not. People nerf it to the point where it's way too easy. Lets face the facts if people can't co-ordinate with their friends on when to do things together, is do to RL. People have a life outside of FF. Some of us just use time more productively than others. I work 2 jobs, go to school, have a GF and still able to get things done. I help my acquaintances when I'm in game if they ask for help. So I still am able to play with them. With that being said I'm only able to help them better because I pretty much did the hard work and we discuss our findings. I hate carrying people, yet I will help those who ASK for help.

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You’re still missing the point. Try actually reading what you reply to, and then try reading what you type before you respond.

People are asking for a Party Level Sync feature so that they don’t have to find convoluted ways to participate in Eureka with friends that didn’t no-life the content the moment it came out, or who are further behind than them due to these real-life instances that you keep throwing around. No one is asking for carries or for the content to be “nerfed to the point where it’s way too easy”; they are asking for the ability to play with their friends that are not the same eLvl as them so that they can actually have fun in the content that the developers keep shoving down our throats.

After reading this topic, I'm sorry to say, the number one thing I'm picking up is there's a reason Manuel is lacking in quality friends... or any friends. Meanwhile, SE refuses to actually listen to the fairest points about Eureka, as ongoing as they have been since Anemos came out; points about things that would have helped the whole experience from the get-go.

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Originally Posted by HyoMinPark

What does this statement have to do with anything I wrote?



You’re still missing the point. Try actually reading what you reply to, and then try reading what you type before you respond.

People are asking for a Party Level Sync feature so that they don’t have to find convoluted ways to participate in Eureka with friends that didn’t no-life the content the moment it came out, or who are further behind than them due to these real-life instances that you keep throwing around. No one is asking for carries or for the content to be “nerfed to the point where it’s way too easy”; they are asking for the ability to play with their friends that are not the same eLvl as them so that they can actually have fun in the content that the developers keep shoving down our throats.

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Sigh... by quality friends I mean people who can read and comprehend common sense. As I have mentioned before several times in rearguards on how light farming works with fates that don't give light AKA BUNNY FATE. It can be done with friends or solo.

Second; I AM NOT AGAINST SYNC SYSTEM OR ANTI ACQUAINTANCES AKA FRIENDS. People can waste their time anyway they like, I made a point that we all have different taste on the people we keep / interact / hang out / strife to get their acceptance or validation so we feel better / what ever you want to call it. Do to the fact that common sense is a dying trait people have lives and can't coordinate to do things. Everyone can play together I AM NOT AGAINST IT, I'm stating a fact that people don't have the patience to wait around. The Sync system , just like many things that players are asking for, has a purpose on why it's not being implemented. I'm sure people can connect the dots...then again maybe not.

NOTE EVERYONE WHO IS MAX LEVEL IN EUREKA DID THEIR SHARE OF NEWBIE STATUS So yes we all endure and some of us have better things to do than wait on others who take their sweet time. IF people can't reach areas and expect others to wait sounds like poor planning.

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Originally Posted by Aster_E

After reading this topic, I'm sorry to say, the number one thing I'm picking up is there's a reason Manuel is lacking in quality friends... or any friends. Meanwhile, SE refuses to actually listen to the fairest points about Eureka, as ongoing as they have been since Anemos came out; points about things that would have helped the whole experience from the get-go.

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LOL Sorry I don't lack quality friends, The world is already dumb enough and I don't need to add to it. I don't need anyone to validate my existence trough people who lack common sense or want to be carried around both in game and life. Just like in real life, it's not what you know but who you know that gets you trough life, and if I refer anyone I rather they don't make me lose credibility.

But thank you for the direct jab, too bad it lacks content.