Old Zones and New Jobs

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Originally Posted by InkstainedGwyn

PotD is actually a good way to do that. Go in at floor 1 and you start at level 1, and you get your skills gradually. It's how I learned to play RDM. I don't advocate learning "base gameplay" in PotD because aggro is usually nonexistent and the mobs are glass cannons, but for actually learning what skills do, it can be quite useful. Just go in by yourself or with 1-2 other people just so that you're not lawnmowering everything.

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Potd isn't my cup of tea. I prefer slower leveling to learn my class and getting there is half the fun for me. But I very much realize I'm in the minority feeling that way, which is why an option would be nice. That way those who want end game/max level or who don't enjoy the lower levels can still get there like they currently can, but still allows someone who feels as I do to enjoy playing our way too.

I know it won't actually happen, just musing how nice it would be.

The problem with zones like the world map is there is no incentive for players to go out there beyond the MSQ and gathering low lvl mats.

This could be remedied a few ways:

1) For crafting Glamour gear/high lvl gear/etc/ low lvl fates would drop specific mats for those items
2) There would be high lvl nodes/gathering minigames located on lower lvl mats that would encourage people to return to those mats for specialty materials
3) More side quest lines that expand on lore and take you through zones
4) High Lvl content in low lvl zones that is only accessible once reaching those levels
5) More map goals (exploration as an example)

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Originally Posted by ArumatKelewae

New jobs starting at level 1 means SE needs to implement new weapons from level 1 to 29/49. I do not see that happening.

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That's pretty much why they don't do it, too much work.

I also don't think it would revive the older areas at all considering how quickly those levels go.

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Originally Posted by Bubble_Oseven

Maybe give an option when picking up the new Jobs to start at either level 30/50 or level 1. I would have loved the option to have started my machinist and red mage etc at level 1 rather than being forced to start them at 30 and 50. I was completely overwhelmed by getting all the abilities at once rather than getting them one at a time by leveling up from 1.

But i also know that's not for everyone, which is why an option would be nice.

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As a RDM main, the idea of leveling from Level 1 with only Riposte makes me shiver.

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Originally Posted by Ticks

Just thinking - wouldn't it make the old zones relevant again if they started the new jobs at level one? And also to level sync dungeons down to the lowest level player?

It could help the brand new players sense of community a lot sooner

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If new players want a sense of the community, they need to get to max level. That's where the community is at. As so it is written :p

This is why the game has tons of things to help new players catch up quickly. Granted, they do things to slow down progress of veteran players as well. New players don't need the community to remain in older content to experience the game. The majority of it is solo anyway.

Owyeah.. starting at lvl 1. People with multiple max level characters will love to... do palace of the dead more. Because most of the old zones are questless and there is no reason to be there anymore, its not like you can level effectively by just killing npc's

If people don't want to level jobs anymore, new jobs might as well come out at level cap then. What's the point if no one wants to actually play the game to level them?

It's like all of a sudden now that PotD/HoH is the "best way" to level, it's the only way to level and if you don't want to PotD/HoH you don't want to or can't level anymore.

To those who don't want to level a new job and jump into content ASAP we have a solution for that now. It's called a jump potion. Let the people who want to level, level and if you don't want to? Pay up.

I would love to start new jobs at level one because my only major disappointment with the game was discovering that I couldn't, with Heavensward. Other than that my attitude is pretty easygoing. There's always a positive side and I try to look at it that way - the addition of new jobs is a good thing - but leveling is such an integral part of my playing experience that it frustrated me, which isn't usually the case with anything new. Normally I'm a "more is better" person. It just got to me because unlike things that might have been or changes to combat and instanced fights, taking a job from level one to thirty or fifty was absolutely something I enjoyed and spent a significant amount of time working toward.

I know I'm the odd one out, or at least in the minority, but those are my feelings on the subject in general.

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Originally Posted by Magic-Mal

If people don't want to level jobs anymore, new jobs might as well come out at level cap then. What's the point if no one wants to actually play the game to level them?

It's like all of a sudden now that PotD/HoH is the "best way" to level, it's the only way to level and if you don't want to PotD/HoH you don't want to or can't level anymore.

To those who don't want to level a new job and jump into content ASAP we have a solution for that now. It's called a jump potion. Let the people who want to level, level and if you don't want to? Pay up.

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Personally, I like leveling and learning the job while going along, but lets not kind ourselves here: most jobs are extremly boring at low levels and so is the content you can do to level. I have all jobs except for monk at level 70 and I enjoyed leveling all of them - however... FATE-grinds for those first 15 levels were never fun.

The level 30 from HW seemed like a good idea to me - level 50 in SB might be considered a bit much, granted.
But skipping the slug of the early levels with only 2 buttons to press? Yes, please! They're not fun, they're not intresting and I'm not learning a thing about the job!

I really don't want to start any new jobs at level 1, it's such a pain to reach level 16, then 50, then 60, then 70 and lastly 80, if you like a particular job then there is no excuse to not learn it well regardless of the level said job is unlocked, but forcing players to level up 80 times is not the best solution, it's not fun at all!...



A better solution for old zones is to give them new dungeons and other things to do on the maps in order to give them more relevance without burdening players doing too much!...


A much better solution would be to completely remake old zones and not only give them flying support but also adding new mechanics like dynamic seasons so the whole areas would change in appearance depending on the time of the year!...