[Feedback Relic Weapon] SE needs to change their method with Relics.

I rather prefer the 2.x/3.X iterations of the relic over 4.X, since I have some friends who actually have decent comps, but they can't handle being in eureka before their coms freak the hell out, so they have to forego the relic altogether this expansion.

Being in an MMO means you WILL grind in just about everything, but Eureka was the wrong kind of grind I believe.

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Originally Posted by Unmitigated

We should go back to the FFXI relic system, you want to talk about a grind? Would make obtaining a relic more valuable.

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I think by today's gaming standards, that type of relic grind won't work. I'd wager most players wouldn't even think about going through that nonsense even if they knew they would never have to get another weapon for that job ever again. I could be wrong though.

However, I like constantly upgrading. If something I'm using has a look a like, then I just glam it over the next piece and call it a day.

This expansion Relic was introduced late and following steps of course as well. Not even worth an ounce of effort to do Relic and it is the first time i am not bothering in the 5 or so years i have been playing.
ARR Relic was much more enjoyable and had some relevance for more then a month at least, this Relic is a pure glam piece.

It was nice they tried to do something different but the implementation + how late it was introduced well...
Make Relic good once again ~

Did they even include the option to sacrifice your Anima to speed the process up even a little bit this time around?
Honest question, I gave up on Eureka after taking over an hour to get one crystal and then being allowed to see that I'd need thousands of them.

No, since it was a new expansion and a entirely new and different concept there was no desire to make having the old relic be able to skip a step for the 4.0 relic.

I miss the old relic. You could no life it and wrap it up pretty quickly. Or you could casually play the game and you would get credit just doing stuff you normally do to eventually finish your relic.

Eureka is trash.

A weapon that grows stronger as you use it should be the ideal, and in many ways, that's what we got as the relic for Heavensward. Yes certain steps were grinding, and a couple were just outright ridiculous with how much effort they took, but in general the weapon has what was asked for here. The anima weapon grew over time from barely being able to manifest itself to being able to have an entire consciousness, and a story that actually made me feel guilty that now it's just sitting in my retainer inventory considering it's a conscious being.

The nice thing there was that for many of the steps, you were able to get the weapon to grow on most steps simply by running the content you would be running anyway. You needed the previous tomestones, and occasionally poetics, but those you got from doing your roulettes. You needed to get light, which again you could get from FATEs and roulettes, or you could CHOOSE to grind it out (I got most my light from just using my weapon on weekly Alexander clears and roulettes, so it wasn't really a grind for me)

The anima weapon and relic weapon weren't perfect, and Square is trying something new, which I can appreciate. However, I do think they're just being stubborn here attaching the relic to Eureka. When Diadem failed to catch player's attention twice, it seemed like they decided to force the player base to utilize that style of content this expansion by putting the relic weapon exclusively into that content, and that's not great for the player base at large as it takes players out of doing roulettes, raids, trials, etc and puts them all into content separate from everyone else. It's bad for those who are stuck in there and hate it, and it's bad for those who aren't in there and are trying to queue in for other content. I'd say this was a fail on all points, except that it so far hasn't required crafted items.

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Originally Posted by OurMom

If grinding is a thing of the past, why are mmos like BDO still popular?

Just say you don't like grinding or you don't have time. Grinding isn't all that bad, it's just in this mmo the combat is stale and boring.

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Because BDO is centered around PvP with a LOT of progression through automation with hardly any content other than PvP. It rewards active grind, yes, but you can literally AFK and pull in millions a day (or hours). You can essentially skip a good chunk of grinding in that game and are left with leveling to 60 and then enchanting (or skip enchanting completely and just pre-order/snipe enchanted gear from the market board).

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Originally Posted by Unmitigated

We should go back to the FFXI relic system, you want to talk about a grind? Would make obtaining a relic more valuable.

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People dont want to put effort into things they just want it asap

I’ve said this before in a few threads. 2.x and 3.x where grinds also, but it was fine.
Obviously players would always complain of certain steps but overall it was fine.

Eureka is completely different system that for me, personally, I don’t like. What I don’t like I don’t play.

So like others for me relics in Stormblood is NONcontent.

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