HoH Emp weapons cost too much

Kinna was 90/90, Empyrean is 100/100, that's just a +10 increase. The way grips work you can keep your aetherpool around 50/50 and keep spending every time you exceed it to reduce the chance of getting nothing from silver chests. You can get a full weapon in 1-2 days.

Right but with where it's at in the patch cycle it doesn't make any sense. Most people have their tome weapon already or a EX weapon so the cost, imo, is a bit steep considering all of that. That's why I think they are too high

These weapons are good for alt classes, or those that don't quite yet have the extreme, savage, ultimate, or tomestone weapons. Afaik the weapons from PotD, were no different. Not to mention people levelling in heaven on high, or doing heaven on high alongside their MSQ, can immediately get a 365 weapon upon hitting 70 in some cases.

Besides, I hardly see an issue given getting aetherpool is much easier in Heaven on High than it was for PotD.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

I wouldn't even bother with the weapons from HoH (unless you like how they look) given Eureka will be far faster if the last installment was any indication. Its the same reason I never bothered farming Tsukuyomi EX. Got my clear and moved on.

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They look worse than the kinna weapons. They are a garish orange, with no glow effect.

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Originally Posted by Kaurhz

Besides, I hardly see an issue given getting aetherpool is much easier in Heaven on High than it was for PotD.

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back in potd, it wasn't till a few weeks till people started skipping chests and speed running the upper floors to do it. Here, people have to do 21-30 runs from day 1. It has a bad sideffect of making it feel much more tedious than it should.

Considering how fast you can get up to 99/99 compared to potd it's not bad at all.

Silver chests seem far more abundant than they did in Potd, and they've done a great job by making magicite come from them, so even aether capped people will be wanting to hunt them out instead of skipping them like they did in Palace xp speed runs. Yeah it costs 10 more, but you aren't gimping yourself anymore by dumping up to 60 at one time.

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Originally Posted by SinisterJoints

for now, there is only one tier but I still think it costing 99 aetherpool is too much

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there wont be another tier in the future, floor 100 is the max we will get until they release the next deep dungeon with 5.x

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Originally Posted by AppleJinx

Considering how fast you can get up to 99/99 compared to potd it's not bad at all.

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That's my stance as well. It took me two days of mostly being lazy to get my first weapon and it'll probably only take a handful of runs to get my aetherpool back in order. Silver chests are extremely abundant, as are Fortune Pomanders compared to PoTD. I've had at least two runs where we had fortune activated on every floor because RNG kept on feeding them to us, which bumped my aetherpool by an immense margin.

Since I didn't see anyone else mention it...

Every boss after (and including) the floor 30 boss give guaranteed upgrades. I've only seen +1/+1 so far, so not sure if the upgrades can flare on bosses.

At any rate...
One you start making runs for floor 100, just buy a grip every time you get to 99/99. This will drop you to 89/89, which isn't going to make that much of an impact, especially if you are starting at floor 21. Between floors 21-90 you will fight 7 bosses that are guaranteed to give at least a +1/+1 upgrade... so you are guaranteed to be at least 96/96 when you start floor 91 from boss upgrades alone.

Also also...
Spoilers...

There is a "secret" mount that you can get after clearing HoH floor 100 a minimum of four times... so if you are going for that there is plenty of time to get grips.

I went from +1 to +98 in one day. granted that's having a full day free and not taking much breaks, but it's possible to get a new weapon every day. can't directly compare numbers to potd because aetherpool builds so much faster in HoH. the rate of chest upgrades succeeding is very high, and you can start new files on floor 21-30 with a guaranteed +1 /+1 from the boss and a potsherd.