THM vs Tank FIGHT!!

As a THM I've gone from yellow to flashing red straight with one Thundara. = Crappy Tank

well, the problem is the enmity bar is there, so no excuse to steal hate :) yeah disagree if any dps steal hate 'accidently'. Another Question is the gla enough ability to build hate?

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Originally Posted by Catapult

As a THM I've gone from yellow to flashing red straight with one Thundara. = Crappy Tank

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Ya that also exists. not the case here tho.
I aint talking about accidental, i'm talking about deliberate.. just to brag.

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Originally Posted by Leo_Hart

well, the problem is the enmity bar is there, so no excuse to steal hate :) yeah disagree if any dps steal hate 'accidently'. Another Question is the gla enough ability to build hate?

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I build good hate on GLA, but as a GLA u cant build good enough hate if u got a
THM giving all he has to steal it from you.. lol (imma put another "lol" here just in case)

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Originally Posted by zaviermhigo

My main class is thm and I don't think its cool to spam or take hate, my boyfriend plays as a tank and he hates it when thm in an Ifrit fight steal hate because their like "WHY WOULDN'T I KEEP NUKING TILL I HAVE NO MP DUH?!" and I'm like *jeanpicardfacepalm*

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I've got to tell some of my LS mates come to read this... I really hate when I hear things like "More damage, NUKE, NUKE! I SEE TOO MUCH MP ON THERE!". They don't realize that we've got to manage MP pool and enmity. We cannot nuke when we are KO, can we?
Btw, I'm afraid this is gettin' even worse with aforementioned Black Mage's skill Convert T_T The scenario would be "DUDE NUKE! DON'T STOP NUKING! Convert and KEEP NUKING! What's the matter with you?!"
*facepalm*

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Originally Posted by Catapult

As a THM I've gone from yellow to flashing red straight with one Thundara. = Crappy Tank

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Actually, that can happen when other players are using enmity hate reset abilities too. (Such as chameleon and shroud of saints.) It's not just the tanks fault if that happens.

On Topic: Basically, I think people need to realize that everyone in the party has things to do and things to watch. Thaum has to keep dpsing, but also watch mp and hate. Tank has to hold hate, but watch his cooldowns and hp, etc. Conjurer has to keep healing, but watch their own hp, mp, and whatever other odd tasks they keep up with. These are examples but every class has these things to do. What they should not be doing is trying to out dps someone else or steal hate from someone else (unless they are the tank or under specific instruction to do so.)

Also, some players need to not try to do everything (I do this sometimes myself.) For instance, if I'm in a pick-up party, I sometimes try to overcompensate for other players that sometimes aren't as familiar with fights or other such circumstances. There needs to be balance. Players want to be the hero, but it's not worth it if you die in the process, for instance. Do your best, but stay the steady course rather than a riskier choice, I guess. lol

Group effort everyone! You play together, you win together, and you lose together. To succeed though, you need to work together. =p

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Originally Posted by Eldaena

Do your best, but stay the steady course rather than a riskier choice, I guess. lol

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NOOO!!!! NUKE! NUKE! NUKE!!! HAHA!!!! TAKE THAT TANK I TOOK THE MOB FROM YOU..
THAT MAKES ME BADASS AND IMRESSIVE!! *vulcan breath* *dies a horrible death*

*Starts typing in pt chat while laying dead on the ground making excuses for his death*
Cuase ofcourse it aint his fault. it's someone elses.......

I bet thaums "NUKE! NUKE! NUKE!!! HAHA!!!! TAKE THAT TANK I TOOK THE MOB FROM YOU" because they want to see what you type in party chat. Yo english skilz are wack yo. Check it son.

Eh, I hate Thm's in Ifrit sometimes. But if they ever steal hate and brag about it, I go on my Mrd and put out bigger numbers than them on parse. They usually shut up after that. :>

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Originally Posted by Akira

get a good mrd to tank ifrit problem solved mrd holds hate better then gla

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no they don't.....

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Originally Posted by YuriSan

SO... you THMs think u badass if u steal hate from the Tank huh?

Hmm... Seems real easy to do so...

Tank's best buffed attack is crap compared to a THM's crappiest one...

So... how is it that you THMs think you are awesome if u manage to steal hate???

I'm probably one of the crappiest THMs on my server, wearing crappy non melded gear
non melded Ivory staff, wearinfg a loyallist's bliaud lol, AND i still am in red a lot of the time in an Ifrit battle...
So dudes, don't try your best to steal hate from the tank just to say "lol i'm a beast"

So In other words, it's not badass to do something that everyone can do lol...
It's just common.

So peeps that say "Oh sorry i didnt mean to"
It's bs. you first go to static red before going to blinking red and steal the mob.
So if you didnt notice that you are in the static red state when you were doing Thundaga you are probably an idiot that don't know how to do your job.
Not a badass THM lol...

<Chameleon> <Please check it>

Not a hate thread just having me some forum fun :)

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When a thaum pulls hate form me and I feel like its on purpose... I use the most efficient hate resetting tool ever... I let them die...

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Originally Posted by Rydin

no they don't.....



When a thaum pulls hate form me and I feel like its on purpose... I use the most efficient hate resetting tool ever... I let them die...

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i have to say that was the best thing i have seen in an ifrit party man. was classic. thm pulls hate and rydin goes passive and says and "now you die!"

with the new skills and all thm has you can really tell the difference between a good thm and a bad one now. a good thm is usually near or the top dps on the parse list and never pulls hate. a bad one is consistently pulling hate.