There needs to be a better way to level DoM/DoW.

Side quests truly are low, i had saved alot of quests for my last few jobs, well turns out i saved it for my last one which was DK and the exp after doing the majority of them was so low i got more experience running fates especially with the bonus exp ones.
Back in ARR we had a hunting log which did help.
The Beast Tribes do also help, if you get in a routine of doing everyday you will level up.

Squadron i had tried but just did not yield enough exp to warrant time doing it.

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Originally Posted by Maero

Side quests truly are low, i had saved alot of quests for my last few jobs, well turns out i saved it for my last one which was DK and the exp after doing the majority of them was so low i got more experience running fates especially with the bonus exp ones.
Back in ARR we had a hunting log which did help.
The Beast Tribes do also help, if you get in a routine of doing everyday you will level up.

Squadron i had tried but just did not yield enough exp to warrant time doing it.

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Ahh... you mentioned a daily routine which reminded me of yet another option for DoW/DoM leveling in HW/SB

Daily Clan Mark Hunts
also gets you 250 Centurio a day, a clan book every two days.

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Originally Posted by Kazrah

You're also forgetting the leveling bonus from having an already-max level job, which is intended to offset not having quests/sidequests.

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Not to mention the Brand New Ring, Ala Mhigan Earrings and the Company Action XP buff. The armory bonus included, you get up to +150% XP until 30, then +120% XP until 50.

Use the trip from 51 to 70 to get good with your job, because I still see people doing the most basic errors in them.

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Originally Posted by Maeka

That's good and all, but you know, the 20-30 minute wait per dungeon? That means that's like a solid 3-4 hours for one level, and only 45-60 min or so of that is actual doing stuff.

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I feel like 3-4 hours per level if you're just straight-up leveling is pretty reasonable. (I'd love to hear the FFXI crowd's opinion on that, lol.)

Leveling in this game gives you a choice between leveling efficiently and leveling immediately. I leveled all of my secondary combat jobs using nothing but daily clan hunts (HW and SB), daily roulettes (leveling, trials, and sometimes 50/60) and the Kojin beast tribe quests once they became available. I gained each level in about an hour or two of actual work, but the process took more than a week per job. If you want to be really efficient, you can level two jobs at once, one each in the 50-60 range and the 60-70 range. And leveling to 50 is easy and fast with squadron command missions.

But yeah if you want to level one secondary job as fast as possible, you're probably not getting much faster than you're already going. Heaven-on-High may help with that, though.

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Originally Posted by Talraen

But yeah if you want to level one secondary job as fast as possible, you're probably not getting much faster than you're already going. Heaven-on-High may help with that, though.

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What exactly is that? I heard that mentioned a couple times...

EDIT: And also, I'm already 50 with the current job I'm trying to level, so earrings/ring are not an option sadly. But, it appears that dungeons aren't quite as bad at least right now. Maybe it's odd time of day or something so I'll do a few of those. Hate not having gear anyways, and gear you buy out of the AH is way too expensive and too annoying to make myself at the Lv50+ range because each piece wants 20 some ingredients.

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Originally Posted by Maeka

What exactly is that? I heard that mentioned a couple times...

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Heaven on High is the new SB Deep Dungeon launching with patch 4.35 - 61+ combat jobs only.

While I'm all for having more ways to play the game you want to level up, I don't know if there aren't enough ways to level up combat classes in this game.
As a person who (as of today) has all but 3 classes at level 70, I never felt that i didn't have options, or that it was too slow.

I don't like to compare FF14 to other games, but really, in the world of MMOs, FF14 is not a game where it takes too much effort to level cap comparatively.
Armory bonus alone makes a huge difference.

You can actually level pretty fast from the command squadron missions. Especially levels 1-45 where you can usually get 2-3 levels per run if you have the ala mhigo earring and have "rested". This usually results in 180% or so experience. If you don't have any of the EXP boost items, and aren't rested, then PotD is usually worth a single level every 10 floors, regardless of what level you're at up to level 60.

If you just want to burn through levels and don't care about tomes. Do the roulettes, particularly the MSQ roulette. That' usually good for at least one level after level 50.

The levequests should probably be saved for bumping a level if you need it, otherwise save them for DoL if you haven't capped DoL.

I'll be very disappointed of HoH is exactly the same as PotD. Because PotD is responsible for a lot of bad zerg-style combat that players who level through it, don't know how to use their skills as they get them. I hope at the very least they throw away the "omg random spawn trap" mechanic. That trap is just RNG "haha, you died."

Don't forget Hunts.

It took me about a week on average to max each DoW/M job after my first just through roulettes/hunting log/hunting bills/command missions.

That seems fairly reasonable to me.