If you hate bots, now is the time to speak up.

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Envoyé par Kisama

I'm willing to bet any amount of money that they will skip the questions about botting.

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More likely they will misunderstand it and go on about their RMT countermeasures or think you're referring to automating your crafting/gathering rotation via macros.

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Envoyé par Texa

If they do that when specifically asking for our input on questions for the guy who is in charge of handling issues related to that then we know its time to start looking at other games to play.

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remember these live letters are first and foremost advertisement. contreversial questions and criticism have no place there.

the idea is to put SE into a better light, not talking about how they didn't handled bots for years...

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Envoyé par Istaru

Oh!

You mean like the ones that get reported dozens of times, or do it live on twitch and are reported over months and yet, they’re still here openly botting?

Personally, I’ve given up on SE doing anything about them.

I wish you luck, I really do.

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This is basically the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

If they ignore or misinterpret the claims about the rampant botting issues, i'm just going to give up on the matter entirely as well.

With how little concern they've expressed on the US end of things in the matter, I doubt they're going make much of an effort to make the JP staff aware of it, though...

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Envoyé par Tint

remember these live letters are first and foremost advertisement. contreversial questions and criticism have no place there.

the idea is to put SE into a better light, not talking about how they didn't handled bots for years...

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They at least had the guts to come out and admit that they screwed up as far as the Ungarmax exploit went, though I'm thinking they probably wouldn't want to admit to an even bigger failing that's been happening practically since the day the game launched.

Went through the thread and gave likes but the posts will probably get ignored in the Q&A as always.

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Envoyé par KageTokage

This is basically the last straw as far as I'm concerned.

If they ignore or misinterpret the claims about the rampant botting issues, i'm just going to give up on the matter entirely as well.

With how little concern they've expressed on the US end of things in the matter, I doubt they're going make much of an effort to make the JP staff aware of it, though...


They at least had the guts to come out and admit that they screwed up as far as the Ungarmax exploit went, though I'm thinking they probably wouldn't want to admit to an even bigger failing that's been happening practically since the day the game launched.

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I don't know how rampant botting is on a per-server basis, all I've ever experienced on Excalibur, over time:
- FATE train bots (amazing how they all showed up exactly at the same time just as the FATE appeared)
- Parked harvesting bots in North Shroud, Gelmorra Ruins (which I had to report repeatedly over the course of a month before anything changed.)
- Teleporting harvesting bots
- RMT spammers, which tend to have a large uptick in Ul'dah,Gridania and Limsa Lominsa at every patch, and are either at the Aethernet crystal or at the marketboard areas.

Solving the Spammers tends would simply require disabling any "free trial" accounts or any accounts without service from using the chat system, and I think that's largely what reduced the spam from annoyance to random. Prior to 3.0 the blacklist would be filled by the end of the day. As of 4.0 I've not seen more than 4 spammers and my blacklist has been cleared. From what I hear, the RMT activity all moved to Discord.

Went through the thread and tossed likes on the posts to give one more count to them. Hopefully we will get at least an acknowledgement that they can see its an issue and will look into handling it better at the very least.

I don't anyone is under the delusion that SE has the ability/motivation to get rid of all botting in the game. The main issues are people who have multiple jobs to 70 using bots for high-end gathering, high-end crafting, and automatic exp via pvp. The bots who just do shards, the open-world fate farmers, and the rmt shouters are very easy to replace and don't have that much impact on the affairs of longterm players. It's the bots that are tanking the market board, removing the incentive for other player to craft and gather for things that take a long time to accomplish, and the people trying to take the easy road to level all of their jobs. Those are the bots that players want to see more disciplinary action taken against.

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Envoyé par Texa

I don't anyone is under the delusion that SE has the ability/motivation to get rid of all botting in the game. The main issues are people who have multiple jobs to 70 using bots for high-end gathering, high-end crafting, and automatic exp via pvp. The bots who just do shards, the open-world fate farmers, and the rmt shouters are very easy to replace and don't have that much impact on the affairs of longterm players. It's the bots that are tanking the market board, removing the incentive for other player to craft and gather for things that take a long time to accomplish, and the people trying to take the easy road to level all of their jobs. Those are the bots that players want to see more disciplinary action taken against.

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How you do even spot a crafting bot, with all the crafters in this game using macro's and quick synthesis. I have yet to see a gathering bot, its mostly RMT's bots I see the most on Lamia.

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Envoyé par NanaWiloh

How you do even spot a crafting bot, with all the crafters in this game using macro's and quick synthesis. I have yet to see a gathering bot, its mostly RMT's bots I see the most on Lamia.

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They follow the exact same patterns over and over, take the exact route over and over, pretty much something a human can't possible do.

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Envoyé par Shouko

They follow the exact same patterns over and over, take the exact route over and over, pretty much something a human can't possible do.

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I understand gathering bots follow the same route but a crafting bot still has me lost. When I craft multiples of a HQ item I follow the same rotation over and over as I know it will hit 100%. :( I know I am missing something here..