On House Relocations...

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Originally Posted by Madbunny

Oh look, another "i must complain" topic.

They can always transfer to another server if not happy with current situation. Last few days a lot of people reporting from many servers how huge amount of houses are still available to purchase.

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Agree 100%

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Originally Posted by Youkulm

Nah of course they didn't they're not stubbornly playing on a sardine can of a server.

It's hard to not notice that all of the posts still complaining about housing are from Balmung or Ragnarok.

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I am from here since beta of 2.0.
FC is here, friends are here. Housing is annoying but not a big enough push factor to warrant a migration.

I have a house and even i say its stupid.

Yeah, just leave your friends behind and your fc and everything just because you are on the most populated server.
Thats not even a bad thing, its just that the ward distribution doesn't really add up.

We're paying for the game and aren't allowed to complain about not having enough? Wouldn't you try to give your most populated server more while waaay less populated server don't get that much for now?
As long as it enough?
Its not really special treatment, empty server don't need all those houses, do they? People have reasons to stay on Balmung, like mentioned above, its just weird to just move away if it means not being able to play with your friends other than world parties...

Theres even people that relocate on purpose just to screw with the few people waiitng for the last few plots. Thats just messed up.


Complaining about something that shouldn't be such a problem in a game we pay monthly for is warranted, is it not?


Just sounds to me like "heh, i have a house on this server(or even balmung) and you don't? Well, just transfer away, who CARES about all your friends and everything? Idling around? Nah, just use party finder, right? Its the same right? Stop complaining, i have a house and there's houses on other server, so you're not allowed to say something against it" and thats rude. Just because you have something or theres plots open doesn't make the abuse thats going on any better.

And more people will start playing. And there will always be people without houses. In a pay to play game.

Think about it

I mean, a proper solution would be to add wards based on server population. Yes, Balmung and other massive servers would likely need 40 wards per area, but it's pretty clear that most players who had server jumped have.

The issue with the relocation was that it took a great chance for many people.
Some brought a plot to just instantly relocate it somewhere else. For example my first experience that someone relocated and instantly relocated to the next plot, so they just snagged one away and the other got put on timer.
Relocating is fine and all but in my opinion they should also hope to hit the right random timer and not have a free-to-go and just relocate. That would be already helpful enough for next time! Then they just can't snag away one from waiting people.

(also I second the increasing ward for popular servers, even more now with all people going to Balmung again)

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Originally Posted by tymora

FC is here, friends are here. Housing is annoying but not a big enough push factor to warrant a migration.

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Well if you can "live" with that i really dont see any reason why you should transfer. I was speaking about people who complain as for them the house is game-breaking thing.

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Originally Posted by Ametrine

I mean, a proper solution would be to add wards based on server population.

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I'm guessing you don't code, because that would likely require a complete rewrite of the core infrastructure of housing. It's not a case of "the devs should just do this" because the likelihood is that they already know that.

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Originally Posted by Cheremia

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Ok lets break it down:
1. You are paying the access to the game, but the game and everything under SE logo is their (including your char.) and you dont have any right to claim anything.
2. Only guarantee is same treatment as anyone else and nothing else, because of SE ToS and "force majeure".
3. You can complain but hardly something will be done. In next ward expansion i suspect there will be quite few servers with empty wards - so move with all your friends and FC.
4. If you want something for your server then SE must implement same thing for every other server. Otherwise there is tons of request/complains just waiting around the corner.
5. On Cerberus in first 2-3 hours you could literally move entire FC and get big house for the FC and medium/small for anyone else and still watch half empty wards.
6. You decided to stick with your current server what is clearly overpopulated... then its your choice to make it difficult to have a house.

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Originally Posted by Madbunny

Ok lets break it down:
1. You are paying the access to the game, but the game and everything under SE logo is their (including your char.) and you dont have any right to claim anything.
2. Only guarantee is same treatment as anyone else and nothing else, because of SE ToS and "force majeure".
3. You can complain but hardly something will be done. In next ward expansion i suspect there will be quite few servers with empty wards - so move with all your friends and FC.
4. If you want something for your server then SE must implement same thing for every other server. Otherwise there is tons of request/complains just waiting around the corner.
5. On Cerberus in first 2-3 hours you could literally move entire FC and get big house for the FC and medium/small for anyone else and still watch half empty wards.
6. You decided to stick with your current server what is clearly overpopulated... then its your choice to make it difficult to have a house.

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Oh, sorry for picking the 'wrong' server. Let's all do the drastic thing of moving. Some only waited eight years or so for housing. Let's just throw away eight years of networking, getting along with people, history in a server and memories because I can't get a house. Please listen to yourself instead of lording it over others..

Yup, lots of Balmung and Ragnorok tears...Move to another server if it is that important, if not just give it a rest.