Can males get some diversity?

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Originally Posted by kamikrazy

SE has shown concept art of Viera males already, and they are exactly NOT anything different from what we already have in spades. They are enormous beefcakes just like all the other males. It might be more realistic to expect them to add it as a subrace option for an existing race. And the chances of them doing that are basically nil. So at this point it seems pretty hopeless.

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uuuh yeah... except what the viera concept is multiple
http://cdn4.dualshockers.com/wp-cont.../04/Viera1.jpg <--- the one you refer to, buffed, not very diferent to the other males
http://cdn3.dualshockers.com/wp-cont...5-22_23_33.jpg <-- the one princessr3a refers to, small, looking more childish

none of that 2 where mentioned to be the definitive one(after all they choosed au ra rather than viera), if i have to bet of what one of the 2 they could have choosed, it could be the child like vieras, because in japan people loves cute stuff, and the child like vieras are prety cute

I just want muscle sliders for all races, buff fem elezen/miqo would look so great. A buff lala would be kinda scary though...

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Originally Posted by Bellsong

I just want muscle sliders for all races, buff fem elezen/miqo would look so great. A buff lala would be kinda scary though...

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To add to that, I want the current muscle slider to be renamed "muscle tone" and made available for all races, and an actual muscle slider that goes from portly at 0 to buff at 100.

Like, my FemRoe has cool muscle tone that is visible with the lighting and shading, but her actual muscle size isn't that much different from any of the other females(no real noticeable bicep. The upper arm is basically one uniform thickness from shoulder to elbow, even though the games shading shows the actual muscle shape)

I dont think SE is going to give males diversity, they are hell-bent on making the males masculine as possible and females as moe as possible. The original concept art for male Miqote showed less buff looking character. If you look at the picture, you will see that the shoulders are smaller and the body looks more like Alphinaud then what we currently have, they are also alot smaller, less buff then the male Midlander Hyur.

https://i.imgur.com/9yRKthl.jpg


Since the developers are uncomfortable with creating cute/sexy outfits for male character, I reckon less macho looking male body will not happen.

I'm not against this, but Buff McHugeLarge is an attribute I personally like. But it's mostly traited to Roegadyn and Highlanders in the first place. Which, if a race is added and the males are petite and effeminate, I would most likely not play them at all. But that's just my opinion.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

Since the developers are uncomfortable with creating cute/sexy outfits for male character, I reckon less macho looking male body will not happen.

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...I mean, unless you’re referring specifically to the outfits they’ve made exclusive to females...But have you seen the coliseum sets and the male swimsuits?? Lol This game is more open to sexy/cute males than any other game I’ve ever played, tbh.

Also, I’m kind of with ErryK in-so-far that “Buff McHugeLarge” is something I don’t necessarily mind. While I would appreciate more variety as I’ve mentioned, I would honestly like to see both concept art Viera as subraces, especially since Viera are an existing FF race we’ve never seen male counterparts for. The more the merrier, as they say.

The only reason they're so similar is because you've a completely different definition on what's considered different between men and women. Every female sans lala has the same about the same body shape. There's some slight thickness differences, but they're not any all less different than the males. In fact I would argue males are slightly more diverse in body types due to male the Au Ra. You've got twinks(Catbois and Midlanders), hunks(Highlander), svelte(Elezen), potatoes(Popotoes), hourglass(Au Ra), and bara(Roegadyn). Females, sans lala, all have an hourglass shape. Some more exaggerated than others, but none of them are any more unreasonable than others. Now for male shapes there's a significant difference between the Au Ra and and Hyur level of hourglassing.

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Originally Posted by princesst3a

...I mean, unless you’re referring specifically to the outfits they’ve made exclusive to females...But have you seen the coliseum sets and the male swimsuits?? Lol This game is more open to sexy/cute males than any other game I’ve ever played, tbh.

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This is probably in response to the male bunny suit which has been in "development" for over 3 years now.

tbh I feel like outside Lalas and Elezen, the girls are all clones of each other just stretched out. Au Ra, Miqo and Midlanders are all the exact same build. Highlanders and FemRoes are the slightly taller with added muscle sliders. Their faces/tails/emotes might make them "unique", but theres little variety in body shape outside of Elezen being rectangles and Lalas being little blobs.

Hell, if you want to play an hourglass bodied character, you have to play a male au ra.

Body shape diversity is always welcome. This game is very cookie cutter to make modeling armor and gear much faster and easier for the dev team. I personally want very petite and frail looking males and big buff Amazonian women just because it completely shatters the cookie cutter body types the races and genders have.

Cant say that I agree with your sentiment. Elezen are tall and thin, Roes thick and muscular, Lalafel are well.... Lalafel. Au Ra, sure are fitter looking, but they also have very wide hips for a male.

The only body type I would say is not in the game for both genders would be a fatter type.