Bard Performance and... Restrictions

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

More like the death rate...

Seriously, we already have healers emoting instead of throwing out damage, let's not give BRD's their own little tool to be unproductive.

Also most people playing these things butcher the songs, just stop!

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Bards who want to be unproductive WILL be unproductive, regardless of whether they're able to use Perform inside instances. Just like how bad Bards with low DPS are still going to do low DPS! Perform has nothing to do with it. In fact, if you see a Bard performing in the middle of the fight when they should be DPSing, it's like a signal you can use to see if you should kick them or not. You don't get that kind of signal with Bards who silently do low DPS and/or aren't taking the fight seriously, unless you use parsers.

So I still don't see why Perform should be disabled in instance. Especially pre-made parties. And if you STILL want to stress this pointless, stubborn argument, just make it so that Perform can't be used during combat. "Oh, but then... uh, what if the Bard just decides to play songs instead of coming with the group?" Uhm, I dunno? Same as a tank who decides to AFK for no reason? Talk to them politely and if they still keep it up, kick them? Like... hello?

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

Especially pre-made parties. And if you STILL want to stress this pointless, stubborn argument, just make it so that Perform can't be used during combat. "Oh, but then... uh, what if the Bard just decides to play songs instead of coming with the group?" Uhm, I dunno? Same as a tank who decides to AFK for no reason? Tall to them politely and if they still keep it up, kick them? Like... hello?

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To be fair, in this situation, there would be no argument if they never made Perform usable in instances. Just saying.

When they add an option to turn off perform sounds specifically I'll have no problem with perform being usable everywhere and anywhere

I'd be fine with that. Make a checkbox under character settings to let people control whether they can hear Perform sounds from other Bards. I think that would make everyone happy.

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Originally Posted by CosmicKirby

Someone needs to keep reposting that sign until you stop.

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Well in it'S infinite wisdom, SE forgot to give us an option to turn others performs off without affecting other game sounds. So yes, no fun allowed until I can mute all our lil rockstars that sound like they're murdering a cat instead of playing music. Once that option comes, I won't care what you play or how well you play it.

LOTRO allowed minstrels to be able to actually change the songs of their abilities, not just the performed songs. It was actually quite awesome, and I loved it.

On the flip side, it can totally break your immersion if someone is playing the Full House theme song before you fight Saruman. Through the Fire and Flames I could get behind, but not some of the cheesy crap people would do.

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Originally Posted by Lord_Zlatan

LOTRO allowed minstrels to be able to actually change the songs of their abilities, not just the performed songs. It was actually quite awesome, and I loved it.

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Warframe has this as well. There is an entire music based frame called Octavia. You can create music with her Mandachorde and that song will play when any of her abilities are used, and knowing the song can be useful since one of her abilities needs you to perform an action in beat with the song to gain specific buffs (Shoot in beat with the song, gain increased fire rate, jump in beat with the song, get speed boost, crouch in beat with the song, turn invisible for a bit.) but yeah, the music you make is played whenever one of her abilities is used. It was pretty neat, seen some cool covers come out of such a limited music maker.

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

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That escalated quickly...