even after 60

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

You do know PotD at 60+ is next to useless right? Specially for tank classes that have insta queues in any dungeon they so desire, right? Just from the buff of Heat of Battle and 3% from food, you bury the exp you'd earn spamming PotD. The only advantage it has, is that it's reasonably steady but one of the slowest ways to level during Stormblood.

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did i even mention if he was right or wrong? that is completely irrelevant. the point is the topic isnt bad. its not trolling, its not negativity, its just someones opinion about potd feeling like the better choice to gain levels because its more relaxing than normal dungeons.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

did i even mention if he was right or wrong? that is completely irrelevant. the point is the topic isnt bad. its not trolling, its not negativity, its just someones opinion about potd feeling like the better choice to gain levels because its more relaxing than normal dungeons.

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It's not a matter of opinion though? It's math. PotD will yield a flat 500K ish per 10 floors, dungeons will reap in millions even when not in your roulette. Million > half a mil. I'm very sorry you take such offense that someone actually bothers calling out wrongful information as it is.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

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I'm going to go ahead and give you the benefit of the doubt and assume you aren't familiar with the OP outside of the forums. Because if you were you wouldn't be trying to come to their defense.

It's also slightly humorous you are defending one of the most, in your words: Toxic individuals of the NA community, while at the same time accusing someone that was in no way toxic or hostile of bring so.

I recommend doing a little less of slinging overused buzzwords at people for no reason and more of familiarizing yourself with who you're actually defending, it will make you look less foolish in the long-run. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

It's not a matter of opinion though?

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The opinion here is that its better because the music is good, it has variety other dungeons do not and you get to meet a bunch of different players, excuse me if my definitions are a bit out of line, but it seems like thats what id consider an opinion.

His comment about "still the best resource to gain experience" is obviously wrong, everything after that is pure opinion.


However i am not talking about that, im not talking about what is right or wrong, and neither are you. you came in here to try and tell him to stop posting because you apparently have beef with him from your servers NN. thats unrelated to him being right or wrong, its about you having a personal grudge against this user and seemingly going into his topics just to tell him about how much you dislike his topics. its counter intuitive and from my perspective, it looks worse on you than it does on them

Sirensong gives you 1.2M XP at Lv 61 without rested XP and almost 1.7M with.

if you're a DPS with horrible queue times maybe but for a PLD, "still the best resource to gain exp after 60." is completely false.

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Originally Posted by Selova

Isnip.

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again, i do not care what this user has done to you or anyone in the past, this topic, this specific topic is not full of toxicity by the user, if you want to insult, berate or call them out, go to the topics/tells/linkshells that hes being toxic in.

Going into a topic like this to make fun of them or call them out just makes the outside observer (like myself) think of you (AxlStream more specifically) as the bad egg in the situation. So i recommend you (AxlStream more specifically) to familiarize yourself with where you are bringing your negativity,, it will make you look less foolish in the long-run. Cheers.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

The opinion here is that its better because the music is good, it has variety other dungeons do not and you get to meet a bunch of different players, excuse me if my definitions are a bit out of line, but it seems like thats what id consider an opinion.

His comment about "still the best resource to gain experience" is obviously wrong, everything after that is pure opinion.

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everyone who is Level 60 knows what PotD feels like to them, so the only thing of relevance the OP is offering is the part that you acknowledge as obviously wrong.

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Originally Posted by LeeraSorlan

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I don't want him to stop posting? He can post whatever he wants, as long as when he post something trying to pass it as fact is actual truth. He would not of posted that one part, I would of not even posted here. I do enjoy the music in PotD, variety could be debatable as each set of 10 floors have a predetermined set of enemies and meeting players can be done in any dungeons. My beef is not with that though. It's only on "the best ressource to gain experience".

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Originally Posted by AxlStream

I don't want him to stop posting? He can post whatever he wants, as long as when he post something trying to pass it as fact is actual truth. He would not of posted that one part, I would of not even posted here. I do enjoy the music in PotD, variety could be debatable as each set of 10 floors have a predetermined set of enemies and meeting players can be done in any dungeons. My beef is not with that though. It's only on "the best ressource to gain experience".

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i dont know, it just seems silly to me to come into the topic of a user you have had previous bad experiences with, maybe its just me that would avoid a user like that, idk.


But oh well, nothing else to say so carry on i suppose

as a side note, what you said in your very first post most definantly seemed to imply you dont want this user to create topics like this, or how else am i suppose to take you asking them to stop and telling them just because they were kicked from the NN does not mean the forums can be there source to post?

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Originally Posted by DiamondOrion

Potd gives ----->You gain 583200 (+50%) gladiator experience points. and still the best resource to gain exp after 60. This is because the runs are easy and less stress than traditional dungeon. The music is great and teams vary in their differences and styles and you get to meet more people than in any other venue. When your roulette's, weeklies and dailies are done play Potd for exp :)

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This is wrong from several PoVs.

1. The net gain of Potd is lower then Sirensong (lvl. 61), 0.6 Mil VS. 1.7 Mil.
Even with cleartime compared Sirensong wins.
If you include queuetime it may swing towards Potd for DPS role only.
If you go any further in level Potd will lose even more ground.

2. Easyness
Potd is not only easy, it is so easy you could sleep while playing and complete it anyway.
This makes it boring and unpreferable to farm.

3. varrying teams and styles
Varrying teams can shake up the boredom but it can do even more.
Depending on the party constellation the runtime is even more varrying then a normal dungeon also the different styles you can encounter are a problem.
All parties with full exploration or multi-tank/multi-heal parties are stretching the cleartime and tipping the balance towards normal dungeons.

4. meeting people
This may varry from DC to DC but on mine I find far less people talking in Potd, mostly not even a "Hi" at the beginning.
Also you can meet 3 people at max, the same amount of dungeons.
In trials you can meet up to 7 people.
Also I met many people in a PF created just for meeting people...

5. music (subjective/opinion)
The music is great but the complete randomness gives me mostly unimmersuve music or even just two to four tracks over a day...
Just the subjectivity of this argument makes it invalid.

In conclusion Potd is NOT the best ressource to gain EXP after Level 60.
It can be preferable for 61 or maybe 62 but at least then even DPS gain more EXP per minute from dungeons, including queuetimes.

Thanks to DiamondOrion and SendohJin for the assistance in providing numbers.