You wanna Tank in 8 and 24 Man content but stay OT?

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

What I dont like is when I go in with all intentions of mt and then someone just decides now they wana mt , Dont understand why people do this. I do a ready check, countdown, put the boss in the right spot away from party and all of a sudden a warrior decides they wana mt its happened to me twice.

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I usually go in with the intention to main tank, but I'll always click on the other two tanks first to see if they're in tank stance. If one of them is, I'll take that as a sign that they want to MT and switch to DPS stance. (Although more often than not, that guy eats it early on and I wind up becoming defacto MT for the rest of the raid)

Happened to me recently in Lakshmi story mode in Trial Roulette.
I was main tanking and died (the group was struggling overall and the healers were busy with raises and trying to clean up dps mistakes too). I switched to off-tanking when I was revived because I assumed the other tank would pick her up but nope...look up to see a DRG tanking and the other tank sitting around #3 in aggro so I Provoked and went back to main tanking.

I've seen the opposite too in that fight as a healer. Tank died and was revived, other tank picked her up fine but then the first tank insisted on fighting for aggro and tanking her with weakness. Not as big a deal now with weakness not lowering HP but it was still strange to me. Seems like a lot of tanks in DF don't want to work with their co-tank and just lock themselves into the MT/OT slot.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

What I dont like is when I go in with all intentions of mt

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Originally Posted by Beckett

I usually go in with the intention to main tank, )

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It should be matter of courtesy and respect (YES I KNOW). If you see the other tank is standing right in front of the boss, ahead of everyone else and/or they started their countdown, may as well let them pull and move yourself into OT stance. You're more useful dealing damage than fightning for aggro, so the healers KNOW who the hell the have to heal. However, if that situation won't happen, like Beckett say, check what the other tank's stance is. It usually hints you what their intentions are. Although sometimes they have no intention to MT, yet they remain on tanking stance. You wait for a solid minute and nothing happens. Force a ready check and/or a countdown to see if they react, if not... You must call them out (Kindly ask them to get on DPS stance) and pull.

PD: I mean "you" in a general sense. Not you, guys D: You're doing fine.

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Originally Posted by AngeloFlick

Not only tanks, but healers coming into 24 mans and refusing to heal.

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Ran Rabanastre and my tank was MT. It seemed like it was ridiculously hard to heal when I noticed the other healer not dpsing or healing or anything. Just standing there. I confronted them about it and they said they only heal when they have to, like dangerously low health and that if I'm going to be a raid healer I have to let people get low first. I don't know where their logic came from that they think raid healers spend all that time standing there. But I have also noticed the lack of Esuna in content these days.

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Originally Posted by odie

Ran Rabanastre and my tank was MT. It seemed like it was ridiculously hard to heal when I noticed the other healer not dpsing or healing or anything. Just standing there. I confronted them about it and they said they only heal when they have to, like dangerously low health and that if I'm going to be a raid healer I have to let people get low first. I don't know where their logic came from that they think raid healers spend all that time standing there. But I have also noticed the lack of Esuna in content these days.

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To be super fair, esuna tends to be left behind for skills that sees more use. It tremendously annoys me that SE made it a role skill and thus elevated it to an illusion of choice skill but that's how it rolls. By the time you remember you truly need it, you're already in combat trying to save everyone's asses cuz your co-healer is too busy drinking pina coladas and getting caught in the rain...

The rain of aoe death, that is.

I've yet to tank my first 8-man, and this was one of the things that concerned me about it since the majority of the time in DF there isn't much communication between the tanks.

I'm glad I read this thread to see how some of you deal with it. Hopefully no too many mind that I prefer to MT.

What I always find annoying is tanks who sit in tank stance despite not wanting to pull. I'm not going to stay in Grit longer than four GCDs, which is why I typically don't pull unless the other tanks are in DPS stance.

You know what I find funny? in Rabadabadingdong I'll be OTing and suddenly the MT dies out of nowhere, and the boss instantly aggros me without having to use any sort of aggro combo or tank stance. Just keep on DPSing without missing a beat, and reposition a bit and continue on my way.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

What I dont like is when I go in with all intentions of mt and then someone just decides now they wana mt , Dont understand why people do this. I do a ready check, countdown, put the boss in the right spot away from party and all of a sudden a warrior decides they wana mt its happened to me twice.

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Well that depends on the duty really. If it's Lv50 then WAR doesn't have Deliverance yet and they just want to throw up a stance. Doesn't help that BB combo has a total of 20 extra potency on SE and SP combos. At that point I will either compete with those WARs or tell them to not use a stance at all so they have better DPS and don't make me have to use enmity combo more than I need to.

P.S. If a seasoned WAR does this then shame on them :|

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

What I always find annoying is tanks who sit in tank stance despite not wanting to pull. I'm not going to stay in Grit longer than four GCDs, which is why I typically don't pull unless the other tanks are in DPS stance.

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Yup. On warrior I just pop heal with defiance on, then go right into dps stance. I honestly dont know why OT use tank stance, not only in 24 man, but I've seen it a lot in primals and shit too.