So far the new 24 man..

My impression is that the second boss is often the make-or-break point.

The second boss is punishing with harsh dps check and big moves that wipe out a good chunk of the alliance.

Once people make it through that boss, the next two feel so much easier that people just go back at it even if they wipe.

We did ask Yoshi P. for harder content... "Be careful for what you wish for." I look forward to the the little break until players are done trying to find the easy way out.

to be fair the raid is literally not even a week old. it will calm down in a few days

I'm really enjoying and have ran in-progress multiple times to try to help out on my healers. But I was also lucky enough to get my loot on my first run. I can definitely see how people who are going for something specific over and over would be frustrated. Overall I still think it's been going smoother than Dun Scaith did on launch.

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Originally Posted by Enla

I wasn't here for Void Ark

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Void Ark wasn't anywhere near as bad as release week Weeping City. The only problem areas were
-Not killing the knot thing in the vent room until the gas built up and killed everyone
-Lots of people not jumping on platforms when cu chulain pooped the floor
-Tanks fighting over aggro with echidna when she split apart because they all wanted to tank the main body instead of the snakes

Wipes were uncommon and I don't recall any vote abandons.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

We did ask Yoshi P. for harder content... "Be careful for what you wish for." I look forward to the the little break until players are done trying to find the easy way out.

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This isn't hard. It's just because you're on a NA datacentre you have a difficulty handicap because most NA players are terrible.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

EXCEPT that spinning cursor BS on the last boss. It's almost as bad as an RNG mechanic as you have very limited control on the direction it stops because of how fast it's spinning and really needs to either be toned down in speed or changed entirely because it's ridiculous.

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Slowing it down would actually make it harder and more RNG.
just tap the button to slow it down.
if it slows down too much, then it can take "too long" for it to make a full cycle, and in that period of time ur gonna get hit by AoEs.
the current speed allows for u to lock it into place, and to an instant tap to move like 20 degrees, or let go for half a second to go the opposite direction.

as is, i have no trouble picking the direction i need to go with this method, but if it moved any slower, i would be getting hit by the aoes i just barely make it out of.

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Originally Posted by Pence

Someone is being dramatic. You can't initiated a vote dismiss while loot is being rolled for.

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The vote can happen right as a boss dies, as some ppl will have it open and rdy, while someone else goes and pops the chest.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

We did ask Yoshi P. for harder content... "Be careful for what you wish for." I look forward to the the little break until players are done trying to find the easy way out.

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Harder than our usual easy content is actually good for the community, it will help people improve their skill level and overall gameplay.

On topic,
New 24-man raid is always like this during the first two weeks. Until guides are out and people either give up or get better.
There is always that person who gives up after 1 try {/goodbye}.

Generally, it will give a bad impression to first-timers during this period. They tend to think that is always a chaos, and won't bother doing it again.

Went in the moment it went live with a premade (yes I mean a full 24man premade) of competent raiders all on or having cleared D4 savage using discord to communicate as we learned and figured out the mechanics. Still took us around 80 minutes to clear and figure it all out.

Although our raid dps was ridiculous so each boss went down really fast as long as we survived the various one shot mechanics. I will say I didn’t expect such delicate mechanics so early. We had a fairly rough go of it with our organized premade but at least we were having fun. I feel bad for people that will have to pug it.

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Originally Posted by Reaperking386

Has put a bad taste in my mouth. It has nothing to do with the dungeon mechanics, theme, or bosses. It is overall great. The problem is the players I have so far encountered. They are impatient, easily discourage, and less understanding to players comprehending the fights. This was not a thing for me until Stormblood for the new 24 man. Usually the majorityhas stuck around until the boss was dead or it was indeed hopeless, but so far I have been kicked (learning mechanics and comprehended them during fight two.) for just trying to learn the fight and bad luck during certain times of the fight. I said "okay, no sweat. I am a tank and I will find groups without issue." Second group falls apart before I even get to them and 3rd group wipes on the first boss once and falls apart again. What is with players easily giving up for this expac all of a sudden?


Didn't even get my gauntlets on the first boss because my party kicked me before I could claim them. Idk... I am just going to stay away from the new 24 man for a couple of weeks until the chaos calms down.

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Na, it is just misremembering. Weeping on release was the worst as far as premature ragequits and vote abandon. Even level 50 had the unneeded vote abandon spam when the group could pass it, just had a wipe from a mistakes. Plus I think people have problems adjusting to being at level for content because they are used to outgearing it. I had a co healer I asked several times they need to be more aware with when to heal and not have me carry. People rage quit on the second boss where we vote abandoned. That healer returned in a different party where we wiped on the first boss and that person rage quit. Cleared the run np after.

Problem with that healer was very simple, they spent too much time DPS because they are used to outgearing content (fairy can do most of the healing in those cases) This guy did not manage stacks well ( I AM SOOO GLAD I CAN SEE BUFFS AGAIN so i can get clues what they are doing and when) and was not even using Chain Stratagem. They would just use Physick mainly and dps, so glad they left and did not get a free carry, hope it help them learn.

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Originally Posted by Silver-Strider

I honestly don't understand the appeal but that's probably cause I never played Tactics. Gear looks awful and music is so so for me.
Fights are challenging but fair, EXCEPT that spinning cursor BS on the last boss. It's almost as bad as an RNG mechanic as you have very limited control on the direction it stops because of how fast it's spinning and really needs to either be toned down in speed or changed entirely because it's ridiculous.

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I had no issues with it tbh, you just get used to the speed and press and if it is wrong quickly lift finger and press again ( hard to explain) but it is defiantly manageable. Then again I am pretty aware in general and good at predicting things.