Black Mage Idea - Meltdown

I have a few SMN nerfs in mind tbh. Remove the Tri-Disaster reset. Remove Rouse. Nerf the potency on Ruin II back to 80. Make Bahamut only proc on spells. Half of those things fix some of the problems with SMN atm too.

For BLM the only thing you can really buff is Fire IV. Lower it and Blizzard IV's GCD to 2.5, add 10-20 potency, and see how the numbers play out. Any buffs anywhere else benefit the ARR rotation more, which we're trying to discourage atm.

F4 and B4 currently have a 2.5s gcd. Think you mean cast time.

Potency buffs are boring. No reason we can't think outside the box.

This is directly tied to F4, further distancing the SB rotation from the ARR rotation.

I would specifically tie a stacking on-hit debuff to every enemy hit by a fire spell whose mp cost is discounted by an umbral heart. That way using Fire 2 to soften up enemies before you Flare can come back into vogue.

And, I would make the debuff interact specifically with your other actions - maybe it’s vuln to your next Foul spell, for instance - rather than buff other players. Otherwise there’s be an incentive not to wipe/consume it for others’ sakes.

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Originally Posted by Ferrinus

That way using Fire 2 to soften up enemies before you Flare can come back into vogue.

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F2 is already worth it at 6 or more mobs.

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Originally Posted by Waliel

F2 is already worth it at 6 or more mobs.

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7, not 6.

I thought about putting it on all Fire based spells, but you don't use an aoe ice spell in aoe situations, so everything that isn't your primary target would just keep stacking.

Buff foul potency 700 - 800 and blm would be fine. Purpose of the job is EXPLOSION!

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Originally Posted by Ashenspire

I'm not trying to make them the new meta class. I just want to see them with a purpose for existing, as they have no real identity currently in raid environments.

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They have an identity: Caster turret. Giving them support skills just lets them steal SMNs identity.

As a BLM who is extremely concerned with the awful place that the job is in single target right now, I firmly approve. I'd also propose Blizzard IV adding +10% magic vulnerability for 45 seconds. This is "utility" for PLD and healer damage (and Raiton) as well as other casters (SMNs will always use Sicfrit now with the way Ruin IV works) without being over the top.

Many factors add together into BLM being weak in practice. It is extremely poor at handling movement/progression, meaning its "damage as utility" is already moot on that point. Consider SAM, which is the samurai of... samurai..... and how it is significantly easier to play than the other melee AND has great mobility AND does high damage with low utility. This alone is a massive problem for BLM.

All "utility" means is damage that isn't the target's own. Trick Attack is party damage, Battle Litany is party damage, even things like Troubadour theoretically mean that healers have to work less hard and can, you guessed it, add damage. With this in mind, party utility classes and the way they work together with other utilities (hypercharge, stratagem, trick attack, and foe requiem all being up together) is VASTLY superior to anything that any "selfish DPS" job can contribute.

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Originally Posted by Sunako

Buff foul potency 700 - 800 and blm would be fine. Purpose of the job is EXPLOSION!

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It needs more than .66 to 4 more potency per second.

Refer to the other massive BLM thread for a list of suggestions that I have for the class, but tl;dr, the damage that it has right now WOULD be mostly fine (still could use a little buff) if its mobility wasn't such a significant loss. Compare to RDM which can move every other cast not to mention melee combo and other instant casts (Verflare/holy and Swiftcast) and SMN which has a loss of -30 potency for using Ruin II over Ruin III (and can also utilize Ruin IV procs for this).

"Turret DPS" is just plain and simple NOT OK when your mechanics are like Blizzard in Exdeath and Shinryu Ballad where you have to constantly move for 3-4 seconds, among others. In light of this, buffs/quality of life for mobility would go further than flat potency increases of any kind. For example, Thundercloud refreshing your Astral/Umbral timer would mean not having to lose a Fire IV from movement.