Kicked for not using Goad

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Originally Posted by Ilan

IF they would prefer burn burn burn they would support their group because physical classes with TP can burn burn burn.

But yeah i know most people are only thinking of themselfs but most of these "optional" skills are useless anyway.

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I totally agree and I prefer supporting the group in turn I will grab any skill I can that will do just that.

See that's the thing, usually I have support abilities set up. I like to help. My summoner is ready to mana transfer or revive and my Samurai has goad accessible. I think I just got lazy about it since I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to use either in the past month. Normally I pay attention to that sort of thing. It just sorta sucks that on my one character that doesn't even have it at the moment I needed, gets the boot because of it.

Also I get it, this is a he said she said type deal, no way to prove it, so on and so forth. I just needed to vent to people who wound understand what I was talking about because it struck me as so ridiculous.

Either way, my apologies guys, and thanks for listening to me rant for a bit.

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Originally Posted by Palladiamors

See that's the thing, usually I have support abilities set up. I like to help. My summoner is ready to mana transfer or revive and my Samurai has goad accessible. I think I just got lazy about it since I can count on one hand the number of times I've had to use either in the past month. Normally I pay attention to that sort of thing. It just sorta sucks that on my one character that doesn't even have it at the moment I needed, gets the boot because of it.

Also I get it, this is a he said she said type deal, no way to prove it, so on and so forth. I just needed to vent to people who wound understand what I was talking about because it struck me as so ridiculous.

Either way, my apologies guys, and thanks for listening to me rant for a bit.

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Oh well i didn't want to offend you or something i was just wondering why you wouldn't have goad in your bar because most of the other skills that you can pick are pretty much useless and sadly most people choose them over goad. So it was more a overall question and not just for you. ;)

Ranting helps to get down. :D

People also forget that while you get 5 role skills they are gated by level... so the order you put the role skills in matters.... if goad is in spot 5 it won't be available under a certain level when you get synced... if you spend most of your time in high level content it's easy to forget role skill adjustments for low duty

It is a 2 way street though, what would tanks do in HW where as Ninja was the only job with goad?
I think some are using as a way or excuse not to manage their tp as hey all mellee have goad now, just like how it is at times with healers when Red Mages are in a group.
Why heal or raise, Red Mage can do it.

Myself though when i played Ninja i would always use goad and with Red Mage i am often having to raise healers and heal tanks to prevent wipes

Players just get lazier and lazier

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Originally Posted by Okamimaru

People also forget that while you get 5 role skills they are gated by level... so the order you put the role skills in matters.... if goad is in spot 5 it won't be available under a certain level when you get synced... if you spend most of your time in high level content it's easy to forget role skill adjustments for low duty

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That used to be true. Not anymore. You now CAN use a 44 role skill in a low level dungeon.

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Originally Posted by Darkobra

That used to be true. Not anymore. You now CAN use a 44 role skill in a low level dungeon.

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I can confirm this as well. :)

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Originally Posted by Ilan

Besides that we don't know the whole story...

Why on earth does a melee not have goad and why on earth does no one keep track of the parties TP???

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For the same reason why I keep seeing a ton of healers without Esuna...

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

For the same reason why I keep seeing a ton of healers without Esuna...

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Because SE messed up? I macro switch, between protect and esuna (esuna on, protect outside of battle.)

Esuna should have just stayed baked in, protect should have been an aura or like pvp. Better role skills should tempt you, not mandatory ones.

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Originally Posted by The_Last_Dragoon

For the same reason why I keep seeing a ton of healers without Esuna...

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Because SE thought "Oh all healers have Esuna, let's make it a role action instead of wasting this spot for it", meanwhile people see "Oh Esuna is in role actions now? Must be optional."