Edda's outfit is available now apparently.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

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Right? It's a kick in the teeth. Since they specifically stated that they gave the task to a female developer, however, I have a sneaking suspicion that none of the men on the development team wanted to do it themselves. Something similar happened even with a game as large and influential as The Witcher 3 - with the, uh, male anatomy of Geralt not being animated because nobody on the development team wanted to do it. Of course, that didn't stop them from showing off and designing female anatomy. :rolleyes:

I'm thinking about the arms but AST not listed. Will be nice a globe with scytes rotating around it.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

Thanks for the regular reminder that players with male characters aren't important to you, S-E. Stay classy.

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You have the ayyymeric outfit, and people have been asking for the edda one over and over. Do you want to just get that dress on male characters? Because I'm pretty sure then some would complain about feminine clothes for males too, and if you want a redisgn we'd have to wait another year or so, looking at the bunny outfit.

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Originally Posted by Rakiria

You have the ayyymeric outfit, and people have been asking for the edda one over and over. Do you want to just get that dress on male characters? Because I'm pretty sure then some would complain about feminine clothes for males too, and if you want a redisgn we'd have to wait another year or so, looking at the bunny outfit.

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And you have the Minfilia outfit (which even has genderlocked hair, unlike ours), and the bunny costume, and the Thavnairian Bustier, and the Bridesmaid costume and...

I'd have been happy for a male-specific equivalent, or to just adapt the dress as-is for males. If they're using a female Lala to show it off, why not unlock it? Male Au Ra have more curves than a female Lala, for heaven's sake.

People have been asking for bunny ears - not even the full costume, just unlocked ears which already fit their models - for two and a half years. Well before this dress was ever made. It's a ridiculous double standard.

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Originally Posted by Theodric

Right? It's a kick in the teeth. Since they specifically stated that they gave the task to a female developer, however, I have a sneaking suspicion that none of the men on the development team wanted to do it themselves. Something similar happened even with a game as large and influential as The Witcher 3 - with the, uh, male anatomy of Geralt not being animated because nobody on the development team wanted to do it. Of course, that didn't stop them from showing off and designing female anatomy. :rolleyes:

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I fear for the future of glamours (for those with male avatars) if this continues, I have seen this happen in TERA (there it was of a $_$ that played a major factor), but if the male developers are uncomfortable with creating a sexy male outfit, then there is an easy solution, stop creating sexy outfit for females in the first place. According to the datas, the gender balance is very close to each other, so its not like there are more players with female avatar then a male avatar and players like glamouring for both genders.

Its simple realy, if SE does not want to create male exclusive outfits to balance it with the female exclusive outfits, just announce it during a Live Letter. This will send the message to the playerbase and this way we dont have beg on the forum for equal treatment. :mad:

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Originally Posted by Rakiria

You have the ayyymeric outfit, and people have been asking for the edda one over and over. Do you want to just get that dress on male characters? Because I'm pretty sure then some would complain about feminine clothes for males too, and if you want a redisgn we'd have to wait another year or so, looking at the bunny outfit.

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Better way would have been to create a male version of the Edda outfit and sell both glamours at the same time. SE would make money, both those with female and male avatars would also have an option to buy the item. The only group of players that would be left out is the ones that want to cross dress the glamour of the other gender. The current path is bad, in my opinion. Lets not forget that with the Aymeric outfit there was a hairstyle included, this hairstyle was uni-sex, while Minfilia's was not. Those with female avatars not only have more choices when it comes to outfits, but they have more hairstyles aswell, which is wrong.

I remember in 2013, people were praising SE for giving both genders the equal treatment even reviewers mentioned this, if you look at forums since 2015 , its the opposite.

Most of the players play female character so the female glamours sell better.
Don't need to be a mastermind to figure out why they almost only work on female outfits.....

*sigh* another female only outfit, and it isn't dyable either.

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Originally Posted by Serilda

And you have the Minfilia outfit (which even has genderlocked hair, unlike ours), and the bunny costume, and the Thavnairian Bustier, and the Bridesmaid costume and...

I'd have been happy for a male-specific equivalent, or to just adapt the dress as-is for males. If they're using a female Lala to show it off, why not unlock it? Male Au Ra have more curves than a female Lala, for heaven's sake.

People have been asking for bunny ears - not even the full costume, just unlocked ears which already fit their models - for two and a half years. Well before this dress was ever made. It's a ridiculous double standard.

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If you look at the mog station it actually is overall even for outfits gender locked with the men actually having 1 more than women listed. In game is another story but you may not want to pull the mog station into this where male outfits are favored :)

I think a good question would be what generates them the most revenue. Are they making more money off the female outfits on the mog station? Do they find more female characters using Lv. 1 glamour outfits than men? If they do then maybe it isnt a gender bias but an actual time vs product value being taken into account.

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Originally Posted by Celef

Most of the players play female character so the female glamours sell better.
Don't need to be a mastermind to figure out why they almost only work on female outfits.....

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Not sure there is solid evidence for this. If you look at sources like the official census, the gender splits weren't that dramatic at all: http://eu.finalfantasyxiv.com/lodest...e8ff1bcf34c5ae

If it's become worse since then, well, they've also been treating male characters like inferior customers since then. So it's likely a situation they caused themselves. Players who want the most content are going to be tempted to fantasia or quit when they keep being silently shut down like this. Correlation does not imply causation in every situation.

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Originally Posted by Yurimi

If you look at the mog station it actually is overall even for outfits gender locked with the men actually having 1 more than women listed. In game is another story but you may not want to pull the mog station into this where male outfits are favored :)

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The quality of the outfits is not really equivalent though; comparing genuinely unique pieces paints a different picture. They openly admitted they locked a bunch of the old Scion outfits to force some kind of equivalence, even though they're mostly available in-game in various locked configurations already.

However there are a lot more unique female NPC costumes on the way, so we can expect the Mog Station to reflect in-game reality very soon.

Who cares about Eddas costume (just a figure or speach.. calm down... breath -- breeaaath.... Ok? Good!) when we can get scythes for our DRK!? :D