Why so many bot on my server.

Because all those accounts pay subs too and Squeenix loves money. I know they can get rid of them, or at least most of their tells/says/shouts etc because they did it in FFXI.

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Originally Posted by Valinis

Because SE don't do anything about it. Countless bots on my server everyday, obvious as anything yet still exist.

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The bots themselves actually aren't the problem. SE does ban them but they do so in waves as it allows them to track the actual accounts used to store and trade the gil they make. Banning the bot accounts alone ultimately does nothing to solve the problem as they just create new accounts, even if it does remove them from the world temporarily.

It's hard to know if they're actually banning the gil farming bots or not because they'll simply delete themselves once they've finished as much of the MSQ as they can.

As for the gathering bots, the same few are still around after close to a year and countless new ones have joined them since SB released.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Bots will exist as long as people buy gil from them. In other words, forever.

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SuperZay is correct, aslong as there is a demand for gil the sellers will be here. Buyers need to be permabanned and not given any warnings or a termpban. SE needs to send a message that buying means goodbye to your account.

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Originally Posted by Laerune

SuperZay is correct, aslong as there is a demand for gil the sellers will be here. Buyers need to be permabanned and not given any warnings or a termpban. SE needs to send a message that buying means goodbye to your account.

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There's actually been research done that shows gilbuyers stop sooner if temp banned. Permabanning them just makes them create new accounts and buy more.

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Originally Posted by Alberel

The bots themselves actually aren't the problem. SE does ban them but they do so in waves as it allows them to track the actual accounts used to store and trade the gil they make. Banning the bot accounts alone ultimately does nothing to solve the problem as they just create new accounts, even if it does remove them from the world temporarily.

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SE has no proof that their system works betters then the other way. SEs way allows for millions if not billions of gil to float into the economy. They only remove from the farmer and buyer has on hand. If I sold i500 weapon for 100 million gil on the MB the gil doesn't disappear from me.

Not to mention the amount of items they put into the game. SE also doesn't take away the gil farmers shards you bought. They will remove a huge swath from the MB though. Always amusing to check the MB after a ban notice and see the person who had a 20 listings of wind shards to vanish. And to go from over a 100 for sale to less then 10.

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Originally Posted by SuperZay

Bots will exist as long as people buy gil from them. In other words, forever.

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This is second hand from some people who still play WoW. But supposedly the base item farming type bots for gold selling are gone. Due to the way the token system works. Still see the odd player bot. But cheaters are always going to cheat.

I saw a load of them while doing the thaumaturge quests, I was wondering what they were doing. It was pretty funny watching identical lalas crying to the npcs and then disappearing into the floor though.

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Originally Posted by Pondera

Pvpbank and their ilk need a hot date with a can of gasoline and a few matches. Seriously, why are those awful sites not illegal?!

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Because cheating in a game isn't a crime.