#Delete SMN now for sure?

You'll probably see a few dark knights with you too. Paladin/Warrior will likely be the staple.

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Originally Posted by OmegaFlare

There was a lot of complaints about demi-bahamut obstructing the view of others during combat. They've somewhat solved that problem by discouraging people from playing SMN.

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They should just make other players bahamut not show up for you when you set the FX from other players to be low.

Hardcore World First: SMN's dead
Hardcore Thinks-They're-World-First-Material: SMN's dead because egos
Midcore: SMN's fine, gear fixes everything, no real reason to be picky if you're not in a rush

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Originally Posted by Robert_Ilcri

Eh give it time and stuff will be fixed. At the very least the Aethertrail crap got fixed so a botched Fester/Bane will not screw up your rotation anymore. Bring back sustain and fix Bane in the next patch, Summoner will do just fine.

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but a botched Aetherflow during dreadwyrm trace will still screw up our rotation...

will trade Tri-Bind for Sustain today.

Can't wait to go into party finder and see people actively exclude summoner from dps roles allowed to join, like they were doing with machinist pre patch /s

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Originally Posted by Chiapet

I dont think we need to delete anyone. If there's something you dont like be vocal be constructive. Don't give up. Keep telling Square what you want. Removal of the class isn't helping really. As for the savage stuff... im honestly curious how much of overall populations is really active savage players.

That said. Play what you love and love what you play. Keep giving feed back.

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But we did? it was the dps WITH THE MOST COMPLAINS in this forum. We complained for a month and we got basically nothing.

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Originally Posted by PriyaJugulataris

Can't wait to go into party finder and see people actively exclude summoner from dps roles allowed to join, like they were doing with machinist pre patch /s

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I was already having this problem with the two EX primals. My SMN would be removed from parties pretty much the instant I joined, but I can get into every party there is on my slightly lower ilvl SAM. These patch notes made me really sad.

It's not fine if 90% of your gameplay is spamming Ruin 3/4 with Festers interweaved. RDM offers more gameplay variety and better damage too, so there's not much reason to stay with SMN if you have both at 70.

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Originally Posted by OmegaFlare

There was a lot of complaints about demi-bahamut obstructing the view of others during combat. They've somewhat solved that problem by discouraging people from playing SMN.

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http://cdn1us.denofgeek.com/sites/de...?itok=q0JdOT1f

Honestly, the biggest complaint I saw about SMN everywhere was the lack of sustain for our pet. And they couldn't even do that.

Come on SE.