SCH opinons on the change

I can't say I'm a fan, they buffed abilities that didn't need it and made one the slightest bit better, nope its still crap. and the real issues we said needed to be addressed haven't been addressed. Indom becoming 500 potency, while nice, wasn't needed, who cares if ET is up every 20 seconds now, we still have to waste far more MP on a 600 or 300 potency heal than the other 2 healers (Lustrate not included), our shields are still crap, Silent Dusk is still a thing, and Dissipation, oh god, Dissipation. Like seriously SE SCH have mentioned from day 1 how bad this skill can be, but no, don't listen to us. At least when it debuted it was by itself, not it clashes horribly with Aetherpact... just why SE, Why do you hate SCH, T.T

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Originally Posted by Aerowaffle

the new Quickened Aetherflow means that it's a consistent 45sec CD instead of an inconsistent 30-60sec CD.

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Its not consistent though. Consistent would be a flat cost reduction to 45sec, the 45sec because of the trait is still inconsistent. you would have to waste all of your aetherflow stacks prior to it coming off of CD, for the 45sec to be consistent, and what SCH is going to do that as we have to watch and use them strategically .

I feel like they buffed a lot of numbers that didn't really need to be buffed (Indom, Excog, ET), but failed to touch any of the actual issues with the class; Dissipation might be worth it now with the new Quickened Aetherflow, maybe. Fey Union still probably takes too long to build up for what it does (less healing gained per Aetherflow use than a Physick - suggestion: make it only cost 5 per tick). Adlo is still weaker than AST's instant-cast copy and still costs more than Aetherflow returns. The existence of Lucid Dreaming and subsequent nerfing of Aetherflow is still robing SCH of part of it's original identity. Selene is still mostly useless. Excog is still to risky for an Aetherflow stack in most situations.

In all I'm worried we might be heading in the same direction that AST did in HW, where we're outrageously strong, but only because the parts that we already did well have been unnecessarily buffed so much that they just overshadow the actual problems that should have been fixed.

Selene is still useless. Dissipation and Fey Union still do not make sense. Still we have pretty terrible raw ST healing overall (decent burst of course). Still weaker shields than AST.

From a mundane fix perspective, I'd still like to see some abilities like Excog and Sacred Soil become cooldowns instead of AF consumers. It's really tough for them to compete with our heals. Also, Dissipation should automagically resummon the faerie after it concludes.

Overall, I still feel like the class is clunky. Shields are too weak to be interesting, so it plays like a WHM with weird buttons and resources.

I agree that the shields don't feel potent enough to fall within the mitigation identity. Succor's shield specifically needs to be increased... Adlo would be fine if it had an increased crit change. I plan on Spearing a Scholar as often as I can, that's for sure.

I absolutely love the change to Aetherflow. that 15-30s reduction will be a godsend.

I like the buffs to Indom/Tactics. I'll never say no to a nice potencty/recast buff. Would have liked to see Adlo's cost reduced, but not a bad compromise.

I feel like Excog is so close to being good. It's that stupid timer on it. The Excog buff needs to stay on the target until its conditions are met, not time out after 45s. As long as it has a time, 90% of the time, I'm going to opt to just cast a lustrate instead, as I don't have to play the dreaded waiting game at that point. Excog as it stands still really feels unneeded when compared to the rest of the SCH toolkit.

Overall, I feel like people are still just complaining because SCH plays differently than in HW. Yes, dissapation and union conflict, that's why you have to plan their usage. I feel like SCH currently is a great class for savage content and a "meh" class for casual content like dungeons.

Changes to Indom? Sweet.
Changes to Excog? Sweeeet.
Changes to Aetherpact? Sweeeeeeeet.
Changes to Quickened Aetherflow? HELL....FREAKING....YESSSSSSSSSSS.


Meanwhile, AST got our Chain Strat. Buff. Y'know, that ONE thing that made us at least useful to have in raids.
Their shields are instant and heal better. But hey I'm sure that SLIGHT buff to our (nearly worthless) 70 ability will help. Too bad the potency on our fairies still wasn't fixed. Still.
Oh and let's not forget our shields still cost an arm and a leg JUST to CAST--that's not even talking about how it compares with AST shields, either.

Were some of the things fixed? Yeah.
Will it really make up for what's happened? Nope.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the buffs...they're just...largely unhelpful.

Sacrifice your fairy, delete your co-healer, delete VerCure and Clemency as well as regens.

EXCOG HAS TO EXPLODE.

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Originally Posted by Born_Free

Changes to Indom? Sweet.
Changes to Excog? Sweeeet.
Changes to Aetherpact? Sweeeeeeeet.
Changes to Quickened Aetherflow? HELL....FREAKING....YESSSSSSSSSSS.


Meanwhile, AST got our Chain Strat. Buff. Y'know, that ONE thing that made us at least useful to have in raids.
Their shields are instant and heal better. But hey I'm sure that SLIGHT buff to our (nearly worthless) 70 ability will help. Too bad the potency on our fairies still wasn't fixed. Still.
Oh and let's not forget our shields still cost an arm and a leg JUST to CAST--that's not even talking about how it compares with AST shields, either.

Were some of the things fixed? Yeah.
Will it really make up for what's happened? Nope.

Don't get me wrong, I appreciate the buffs...they're just...largely unhelpful.

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Man, you people just can't be pleased, can you... You wanted a nerf to Balance, and you got it.... so now you're complaining about Spear... Oh well.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Its not consistent though. Consistent would be a flat cost reduction to 45sec, the 45sec because of the trait is still inconsistent. you would have to waste all of your aetherflow stacks prior to it coming off of CD, for the 45sec to be consistent, and what SCH is going to do that as we have to watch and use them strategically .

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It's plenty consistent enough for me.

If you're at the point that you really need AF to be off CD, you likely have already used all three stacks so it's at 45sec. If you didn't use all your AF stacks before it pops off CD, you didn't really need the additional "oh shit!" healing that the AF stacks provided.