Feedback: Please do not lower Paladin damage.

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Originally Posted by Bourne_Endeavor

You... need to check FFlogs again because this is factually inaccurate. As stated in another thread, 43 Paladins have broke the 3,000 mark without Balance carries. Only five Warriors and Dark Knights have achieved that.



Change Static Speed to Player Damage -> Change all Classes to PLD/WAR/DRK -> Click on DPS - Balance twice

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Thank you, still see all tanks doing over 3100 there, but it seems he's looking at "Player Damage to Bosses" where it is as he said. Where is this difference coming from? The rock mechanic?

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Originally Posted by Hrista

Thank you, still see all tanks doing over 3100 there, but it seems he's looking at "Player Damage to Bosses" where it is as he said. Where is this difference coming from? The rock mechanic?

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Basically, "Player Damage to Bosses" only records direct damage done to Susano himself, I believe. That means any mechanics where you aren't attacking Susano are not included. Player Damage is any damage done throughout the fight, be it on adds, mechanics and etc.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

If I had to rank how much dps the current tanks do it would be 1. War 2. Drk 3. Pld.

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This is delusional xD

Paladin doing less DPS than War or Drk?

http://i.imgur.com/dLfPsSw.png?1

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Originally Posted by Alphras

This is delusional xD

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It's not really I play my warrior and fell cleave does so much damage still. I am leveling my warrior right now to 70. I am in the process of leveling all the jobs in the game but I still see war and dark doing more damage.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It's not really I play my warrior and fell cleave does so much damage still. I am leveling my warrior right now to 70. I am in the process of leveling all the jobs in the game but I still see war and dark doing more damage.

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I'll be frank. It's cause you suck at paladin. Played optimally PLD is doing the highest damage atm and it's one of the easiest to play at that level to boot. After you do your opener it's literally line up Req windows as often as possible. Or is being able to cast 4-5 ranged fellcleaves that hit harder than fell cleave not enough damage for you?

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It's not really I play my warrior and fell cleave does so much damage still. I am leveling my warrior right now to 70. I am in the process of leveling all the jobs in the game but I still see war and dark doing more damage.

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Yes. That one skill with more potency is clearly the gamechanger...

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It's not really I play my warrior and fell cleave does so much damage still. I am leveling my warrior right now to 70. I am in the process of leveling all the jobs in the game but I still see war and dark doing more damage.

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Let's just say there are alot PLDs out there that are not that good, that's why you very often see PLDs doing lower damage than a DRK or WAR. A good PLD however will do more damage than WAR or DRK and the upper percentiles on fflogs show that without any doubt.

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Originally Posted by Zumi

It's not really I play my warrior and fell cleave does so much damage still. I am leveling my warrior right now to 70. I am in the process of leveling all the jobs in the game but I still see war and dark doing more damage.

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Are you pulling perchance? Paladin should off tank during the opener to set itself up for a stronger burst. If not, you need to reconsider your rotation because the numbers simply don't back up your argument. You are quite literally the only person I have seen between here, reddit and youtube who claims Paladin is the weakest DPS tank. I'm not being hyperbolic either. No one has said Paladin does less damage.

If we are talking about pug plds then we need to take into account the usual "MT-OT" tradition which prevents a pld MT from staying in sword oath all the time: no tank swaps to share mitigation burden, possibly no shadewalker at pull, possibly no provoke-shirk combo for aggro. If you tell a pld to pull the boss, eat all the cleaves in susano first phase, eat all the tank busters in lakshmi, then yeah obviously the war OT would do higher dps lol.