Hallowed Ground = Uselss

Defensive cooldowns are used to prevent emergency situations.

the oh shit bottom is shelltron.....HG is the "I don't give a damn fxxx about you(boss) and the rest of world for 10sec.....btw, when I was farming susano I got a bad luck run, just swap out from the tank buster, arrow marker and thunder cloud on north....I went to the side then I see atleast 3 members got knock up and low hp. I hold in the thunder aoe, pop HG and eat the boom from stack mechanic alone, 0 hp loss....felt so good.....

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Originally Posted by BluexBird

The cost of these benefits is the high cooldown. It would be considered THE BEST invulnerability ability, the cooldown is what makes it balanced. So there's no reason at all to complain.

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Ill say hallowed is in a shakey second place for invulns with holmgang being the bwst and living being the worst. Its all due to time on this one hallowed is a stupin long cd so you cN only use it once a fight unless you pop it really early in a really long encounger. I can use it like 3 or 4 times so out of usage sake it is way way way better. All these are are cooldown and hallowed is the one you can use the least which is why I'll put it 2nd. The effect is the best but it's just not worth it for activations per fight.

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Originally Posted by Dizzy_Derp

Ill say hallowed is in a shakey second place for invulns with holmgang being the bwst and living being the worst. Its all due to time on this one hallowed is a stupin long cd so you cN only use it once a fight unless you pop it really early in a really long encounger. I can use it like 3 or 4 times so out of usage sake it is way way way better. All these are are cooldown and hallowed is the one you can use the least which is why I'll put it 2nd. The effect is the best but it's just not worth it for activations per fight.

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Yes, that's what I meant. But if you look at what Hallowed Ground can do, the way it completely BLOCKS all the damage AND doesn't make you stuck in one place, you can clearly see it's the best skill of them all. But considering what it's actually USED FOR, though, Holmgang wins by far.

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Originally Posted by Ry0uSh1n

This skill is by far the most useless skill of all paladin skills. I can't even consider it a "Oh Sh**" button any more because a skill that is suppose to be instant, really is not instant. The animation should come after the skill has been applied to user, not the other way around. It's very sad when you see the icon float above your head but does not get applied towards your status only to die.

I feel this skill is a wasted use when you try and make a judgement that may or may not save the party, so say i'm down to 2k life and I decide to use HG just in case my healer is having to dodge mechanics or whatnot. I press the assigned button, watch the skill activate and still die. Im dealing with 95-120 ping outside of current "DDOS attacks".

So outside of the skills "instant" delay is there really any use to this skill? It really seems like a waste to make a judgement call when you're sitting at 15k and have to make a 50/50 decision if your healer is going to be able to heal you before the next attack/attacks.

In short I honestly feel that the tooltip for HG needs to be updated to something in the aspect of cast time of 3-5 seconds, since it's not a instant skill. Unless you have a ping of less then 50 the skill is not instant.

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It's useless because it takes a second to work?

Try using it a second earlier?

Jesus. What a dumb post. HG is freaking amazing. Use it proactively instead of reactively and you can do stupid things with it.

As was pointed out earlier, defensive cooldowns are meant to be used proactively, not reactively. Tank deaths occur when you don't predict damage patterns correctly.

Hallowed is the most powerful tank invulnerability in the game, by a large margin. It completely negates incoming damage, meaning that you don't have to reach 1 HP for the effect to trigger, and your healers can ignore you for the complete duration. It also negates any effects that are triggered by damage, such as vulnerability stacks, giving them time to reset. This allows you to bypass intended game mechanics, such as forced tank swaps. Even historically, in fights where PLD was at a strict disadvantage, the question of "can we just Hallowed this mechanic to make progression simpler?" was always a consideration.

You'd think that this sort of thing would have been addressed and rebalanced a long time ago. The obvious solution to this would have been to let Hallowed simply prevent death at 1 HP like the other two tank invincibility moves, so that you can't cheese mechanics with it that you can't on other tanks.

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Originally Posted by Ry0uSh1n

This skill is by far the most useless skill of all paladin skills. I can't even consider it a "Oh Sh**" button any more ...

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If you EVER thought of it like this, you are doing it wrong. It's best thought of in advance, planned so one can maximize healer DPS, or cheese a mechanic, or avoid a tank swap. It is not FFXI's Invincible. You don't use other CDs in that way, and you shouldn't think of this as any different.

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Originally Posted by Brannigan

I grouped with two paladins today for EX Primals and Deltascape who didn't use any Holy Spirit at all.

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What. But all the tanks have been designed around spamming one action for about 20s now.

Hallowed Ground is amazing. I love it when a PLD pulls like three packs of mobs and pops it so I can DPS the whole time it is up without having to worry about his HP.

I don't run static groups or savage raids or anything, so I don't usually use it in a planned fashion, but I do use it as a sort of "get out of jail (mechanic) free" card.

Second tank is down and can't tank swap in time or something? HG.
Healer needs to hard cast a res on someone important, like 2nd healer/tank? HG.
Party is getting wrecked by AE damage and it looks like the healers might need a little breathing room to heal them all up? HG.
etc, etc.