Don't see the point of the scrip gear if it's not bis. You have to craft/gather a ton to get the scrips in the first place. Right now it's pretty easy to HQ every at 70 there's no challenge. Any casual can easily get the 60 red scrip accessories and augment them. A couple cheap melds and CP food from kugane and you can 100% HQ everything no problem. Entry level crafting at 70 is eaiser than either previous level cap.
There's going to be far more effort put in to get the yellow scrip with it's cost. If it's meant to be glamour then remove the stats so there's no illusion.
Lackluster yellow strip gear
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07-05-2017, 06:35 AMSparhwk
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07-05-2017, 12:12 PMNezeriusIt never was, and you can even just grind for it now, since yellow scrips aren't tied to a weekly cap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparhwk
Because we barely have any 1-star recipes, nor any 2-star recipes.Quote:
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Except you can't meld materia onto the lvl 60 augmented red scrips gear. And again, of course it's easy to HQ the few 1-star recipes we have. HW 1-star recipes weren't hard to HQ either.Quote:
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It's silly to compare the current situation with the one in HW, since HW introduced the lvl 60 white set and the crafted AF set right away. We don't have the crafted version of the AF set (yet).Quote:
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It's meant for players who are more casual about crafting.Quote:
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07-05-2017, 12:41 PMXenohartI'm a casual crafter/gatherer and in no way is yellowscripts more casual. We need pretty darn good stats to be efficient at doing yellowscripts, which you don't need if you already have those good stats. I'm having an easier time just gathering the crafted gear items.Quote:
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07-05-2017, 01:37 PMSparhwkThis is an excuse. There's no weekly cap on any on the 70HQ gear and yet it's better and eaiser to get.Quote:
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This matters how? It's pretty easy to HQ the 70 stuff. The new skills and specialist give such major boosts. And there's already macros ready for the 1*. There is new gear added when the 2/3* stuff is added to allow you to craft it all. It's like you forgot a ladder is provided to climb with no effort.Quote:
Because we barely have any 1-star recipes, nor any 2-star recipes.
You have no idea what is casual atm. Grinding crafting scrips is not casual in anyway. That's a ton of time and effort for "casual" stats. The prices are pretty damn high for casual as well. If they were like 500 for a mainhand but 1300? And you get like 19 per turn in on ALC with an infusion pot. Full set is 3700 scrip. 195 turn ins. Not casual.Quote:
It's meant for players who are more casual about crafting.
Also try looking at the market prices. You'd be throwing money out the window if you crafted for yellow scrips vs just buying the HQ gear and some materia. -
07-05-2017, 11:22 PMNezeriusAnd this was the case in HW as well. It was easier to get the lvl 60 set, compared to the i180 red scrips set. Red scrips had a weekly cap, so it took 2 weeks worth of red scrips (900) to obtain 1 chestpiece.Quote:
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Also to note, the yellow scrips chestpiece has the exact same cost, 900 scrips.
How is this different from HW? It was just as easy to craft the lvl 60 stuff/1-star stuff back then.Quote:
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And you're the one that seems to be forgetful here. We likely won't be getting a new crafting set for 2-star crafts, just like we didn't get the Ironworks set until after the first set of 3-star recipes were introduced.
How exactly are the prices "pretty damn high" when they use the exact same prices as the i180 red scrips gear, back when that was first released? And pots have always been lower on the amount of scrips obtained, since they require a lower amount of mats. Stuff like the Zelkova Fishing Rod (56-67 scrips), Twinsilk Slops of Casting (74-88 scrips) and Palladium Choker of Healing (46-55 scrips) can be turned in for more scrips.Quote:
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Of course the prices of materials are high at the start of the expansion, but these gear sets will be around for at least another 6 months.Quote:
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07-05-2017, 11:39 PMMaku
Script gear should be BiS.
You cannot argue that it is for glamour when you can't distinguish glamours based on job. By that I mean, that you can't have one gear set with several different glamours that change based on job. And hardly anyone has just ONE gather. We all have 2 or all three. -
07-06-2017, 01:34 AMTint
btw we are here in the disciple of LAND board, not HAND.
there are no turn-ins for pots or whatever, only gathered stuff wich takes forever to get enough collectables to buy all the gear.
and that the whole system is the opposite of casual friendly is also nothing new, we have talked about it back then already: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...ual-friendly..
back in 3.0 i had the lvl 50, ilvl 60 craftet gearset for my gatherer and i replaced it by the lvl 55 NQ set because it actually was better. i had a crafted white lvl 60 set and i replaced it with the ilvl 180 red scrip set, because it may not be 100% better than a penta melded crafted set, but it was really good (i think only the GP higher with the crafted set). -
07-08-2017, 05:15 AMBourne_EndeavorExcept this isn't true. It will cost you substantially more getting Yellow Scrips than if you crafted the 290 set, and it takes just two grade IV materia to surpass all but the body. There is literally no value in Yellow scrips gear except for glamour.Quote:
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07-08-2017, 06:04 AMKabooa
The fact that yellow scrips aren't gated weekly should be a big enough hint that this isn't going to be your 4.0 'bestest specialist' gear.
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07-08-2017, 08:07 AMIllyriaKnotfredBasically this. It's no longer gated so don't expect it to be best of the best. If you think they should be, well, sucks to be you.Quote:
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