Please Please fix Warrior before the release of Raids

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

Clean up the Path/Eye/BB situation too. TBH just make Eye/Path both generate 15/15 or 20/20 gauge and BB just 10. Buff Path's potency.

Stance Swap penalty, whatever it is, should not eat into the original '5 stacks' (ie: 50 gauge) of Wrath/Abandon, just like it hadn't in ARR & HW. Penalty should only take away bonus Gauge of 51-100 (stacks 6 through 10), in whatever way is fair.

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Actually you lost stacks in ARR if you drop your defiance and turn into "dps stance"

Fell cleave is 50 gauge for 500 potency, but it also costs a gcd, our average gcd potency is around 200 excluding fell cleave so it's only around 300 potency gain (350 max if you're trading a heavy swing for fell cleave) for 50 gauge. If onslaught gets changed to 10 gauge it'll be better than fell cleave already.

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Originally Posted by aleph_null

Fell cleave is 50 gauge for 500 potency, but it also costs a gcd, our average gcd potency is around 200 excluding fell cleave so it's only around 300 potency gain (350 max if you're trading a heavy swing for fell cleave) for 50 gauge. If onslaught gets changed to 10 gauge it'll be better than fell cleave already.

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https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Onslaught

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Originally Posted by Kabooa

https://ffxiv.consolegameswiki.com/wiki/Onslaught

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What's your point? I know that it costs 20 gauge for 100 potency right now.

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Originally Posted by aleph_null

What's your point? I know that it costs 20 gauge for 100 potency right now.

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the point is the move you're talking about is upheaval not onslaught, making onslaught 100 potency with 10 rage consumption isn't going to make it better than fell cleave, in fact it's still going to be useless unless somehow SE buffed the potency to 200-300

Nothing is being buffed until the end is savage unfortunately.

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Originally Posted by konpachizaraki

the point is the move you're talking about is upheaval not onslaught, making onslaught 100 potency with 10 rage consumption isn't going to make it better than fell cleave, in fact it's still going to be useless unless somehow SE buffed the potency to 200-300

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Onslaught at 10 gauge oGCD makes it much better than Fell Cleave which uses a GCD.
At best, Fell Cleave is a 350 potency increase over our lowest weapon skill (i.e. Heavy Swing) for 50 gauge.
If onslaught was changed to 10 gauge, it would provide a net 500 increase for 50 gauge, hence it would be better fell cleave.
Actually, using upheaval and Onslaught (400+ potency) for 40 rage is already a dps increase over Fell Cleave for less gauge.
The reason Fell Cleave is stll better is 1) being a burst, it benefit more from party buffs (e.g. Trick Attack) 2) it just feels good.

WAR was the first class I played seriously and losing bloodbath, while DPS have it, is really unfair.

Potential changes I would make.

Defiance/Deliverance
No longer costs any Beast Gauge to swap between them

Onslaught
Potency increase to 125; cooldown increase to 30 seconds; generates 10 Beast Gauge

Bloodbath
Generates Beast Gauge per hit, replacing the healing factor it once had; 120 second cooldown; replaces Shake it Off

Fell Cleave
Increase potency to 650. (maybe 700)
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I know that last one looks insane, however I agree with Xeno's philosophy. 500 potency just doesn't cut it anymore due to the buffs Paladin received. The easiest way to remedy Warrior's damage is by buffing the strongest move in its arsenal, especially since the devs decided to base the whole job around Fell Cleaving. As for Onslaught, if the BG increase is too much, just make it Plunge and call it a day.

Look, if you argue onslaught is worse than plunge I'd agree, but saying 10 gauge for 100 potency (if it's changed) is worse than fell cleave is just dumb. The only thing fell cleave is better than that is the lack of cd so you can spam it during berserk. Outside of berserk a 10 gauge 100 potency move is better unless it costs you a fell cleave during a certain phase (you have 40 gauge when fight ends and your last gcd wasn't a fell cleave for example).