Cleric Stance removed??

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Originally Posted by Purrsnikitty

You really shouldn't talk like you represent the majority of the healers or know what most of them want.

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I never claimed to represent anyone other than myself, although as I said - I have definitely seen discussions where players who like WHM have been discussing other jobs and have said they've wished they could use Cleric Stance on those jobs.

The only person I represent is me, but I am perfectly within my rights to do that and to talk about it here. If you don't like it, you don't have to read it.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

I don't think whm having cleric stance is "central to gameplay"

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I think it is.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

I don't remember seeing anyone go "I just wish I had cleric stance on other jobs also"

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So you don't remember seeing something that was written on a web page I read. Your point?

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Also if you going to quit over them taking away cleric stance well then bye have fun some where else

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People don't have to share your opinions to be permitted to express them. Get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by RaijinSupreme

Then get a refund. You also don't have to play it.

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I may well do that. Because you're right, I don't.

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Originally Posted by velw

I think it is.
So you don't remember seeing something that was written on a web page I read. Your point?

People don't have to share your opinions to be permitted to express them. Get over yourself.

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Yes you have a right to your opinions to come here and say you don't like it but saying you going to quit over it (what sounded like) when change has not even taken place sounds like you the one that needs to get over yourself.

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Originally Posted by LunarEmerald

Permanent cleric is way better than having to constantly toggle it off and on for 10% more damage.

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That's not the change they appear to have made, but if it is then I agree to an extent (although I still think removing the game dynamic is a shame).

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Originally Posted by velw

That's not the change they appear to have made, but if it is then I agree to an extent (although I still think removing the game dynamic is a shame).

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To clarify. "Permanent Cleric" as it's being called is the change being made to the way healer damage is calculated. We now scale with MND instead of INT nullifying the need to have a stance that swaps our values.

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Originally Posted by Ayer2015

Scaling healer dps off MND was the right choice. THe skill is basically ranging strikes now, and you can take it if you want to do more dps than the healers who don't give a fuck.

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How much DPS is that going to be with a 90 second cool down between bursts? There's no way I'm healing for 90 seconds at a time at the moment. It's going to ax my DPS.

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Originally Posted by Lexia

Yes you have a right to your opinions to come here and say you don't like it but saying you going to quit over it (what sounded like) when change has not even taken place sounds like you the one that needs to get over yourself.

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Quitting an activity that is supposed to be a game that is no longer enjoyable is... normal behaviour.

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Originally Posted by Jiao

To clarify. "Permanent Cleric" as it's being called is the change being made to the way healer damage is calculated. We now scale with MND instead of INT nullifying the need to have a stance that swaps our values.

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So this is not accurate? https://gamerescape.com/wp-content/u...ric-Stance.png

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Originally Posted by Keydah

Is Cleric Stance fun and usually (when you learn how to not get stuck in it) fun mechanic? Heck yeah!
Is it a good thing that it's gone, because it means that more healers will dps because there's nothing to be afraid of in doing so? Also heck yeah.

I'm going to miss CS, but I'm happy with the change. You can't please both sides; at least this way the dpsing healers definitely win and the non-dpsers don't have any excuses to pull now.

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Do DPS-ing healers actually win? Right now I'm not sure they do.