What should I infuse my blm with?

Yes some players do meld piety for extra Fires as blm, it is the norm. lol

Personally I don't see the use of Pie in lv60 rotation, I'd rather take the extra SS or Crit over Pie.
In the end, it's up to you how you wanna meld your gear though.

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Originally Posted by Neela

I got two builds for my smn the raid one with 1270 crit 590 det 746 ss and a casual time stasis build with 830 crit 615 det 1250 ss. even with 1250 ss I never felt the need of extra piety one more fire 4 or ruin 3 isnt worth the loss in crit/ss for more mp. although I like exotic builds please don't spread that piety is the stat to go for caster (smn)... it definitely isnt and will never be a primary of the casters secondaries : o

im kinda lost in trying to get your mindset of your smn stat build... you melt piety for "an extra ruin lll" out of trance but you don't have enough spell speed for the common "extra ruin lll" while being in trance... way more effective would be to raise your spellspeed at least to 745+ to get the 5th trance ruin lll - decreasing your piety... the right usage of aether flow and energy drain should be enough for okay-ish mp management.

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....Says the person who was *shocked* people used Ruin 3 outsided of Trance in the first place...

.....who apparently didn't realize you actually CAN use it out of Trace and be doing constant 200 potency single target damage... instead of 80 potency single target damage. No wonder YOU don't think you need Piety gear.

News flash... people moved on from the original guides once they realized you can get enough MP to do constant Ruin 3 spam outside of DWT.

I can't even believe you get any DPS at all just using Ruin 2 or Ruin1.... without using Ruin 3 outside of trance. I outdamage the crap out of any SMN who uses that method.

Neela you haven't had any credibility with me since damn near the day I got because NONE of the things you do have turned out to do much DPS. Or they get wrecked when you actually go out and use them for real in an actual combat situation.

So of all people here... you are the LAST person I would ever take any advice from.

You get Hard locked into whatever someone else "said" to do and never bother to question it. So you get stuck there.

I will take my build any day of the week over yours.

PS: I should probably let everyone know I have about +110 Piety from Anima Weapon and Melds, its how I actually got to 10K+ MP. Its how I maintain such high Crit using other melds....and still have decent DET and SS.

This thread has careened way off topic.

Infuse your BLM with red wine and let it marinate until 4.0. As ChameleonMS notes, there is little point to fusing materia to gear that will obsolete in a few weeks, and it's anyone's guess how the stat weights will shake out.

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Originally Posted by Cynfael

This thread has careened way off topic.

Infuse your BLM with red wine and let it marinate until 4.0. As ChameleonMS notes, there is little point to fusing materia to gear that will obsolete in a few weeks, and it's anyone's guess how the stat weights will shake out.

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There is a lot of truth to that...

Right now, because of the stat changes in Stormblood... everything we say here could be obsolete in 16 days.

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Originally Posted by Silverquick

....Says the person who was *shocked* people used Ruin 3 outsided of Trance in the first place...

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sorry but... lol? I play SMN since ARR and I use Ruin lll out of Trance since HW, not like others way later with the Ruin lll buff. I also got the first crit/ss Anima way before the stat-weight update which brought ss to casters mind. I think im way, way more in touch with this cls than you think you are. and no, I don't know why you take every single post from me personal... but honestly piety for smns is a waste... even a more bigger waste on a smn Anima...

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Originally Posted by Silverquick

News flash... people moved on from the original guides once they realized you can get enough MP to do constant Ruin 3 spam outside of DWT.
I can't even believe you get any DPS at all just using Ruin 2 or Ruin1.... without using Ruin 3 outside of trance. I outdamage the crap out of any SMN who uses that method.

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#newsflash

ruin lll out of trance is a common thing since months - every smn should do that, nothing new - and believe me... you won't outdamage any other common smn build with more than 740+ss // there is absolut no way where piety would be more effective for smns than crit/ss. Beat a common 3.2k raid-dps or a 26k deathflare (hell yay deathflare - NOT Teraflare) with your piety build... good luck with that...

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Originally Posted by Silverquick

I will take my build any day of the week over yours.

PS: I should probably let everyone know I have about +110 Piety from Anima Weapon and Melds, its how I actually got to 10K+ MP. Its how I maintain such high Crit using other melds....and still have decent DET and SS.

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take whatever you want o.o just be aware that your build is highly ineffective compared to others... I have no probs with fun-builds like everybody should know meanwhile. but your comments, formulars, math and recommendations for smns... are often outdated or false advertising... yet again im not here to bully or anything but it just hurts reading so much "wisdom".

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Originally Posted by Neela

take whatever you want o.o just be aware that your build is highly ineffective compared to others... I have no probs with fun-builds like everybody should know meanwhile. but your comments, formulars, math and recommendations for smns... are often outdated or false advertising... yet again im not here to bully or anything but it just hurts reading so much "wisdom".

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Ohhh that's must be why I'm outdamaging the other Summoners around me...

I totally didn't listen to you...

Guess what Neela... reality and your wishful thinking dream world... didn't meet up.

talking about dreamworlds is really suiting you - be stubborn and childish if you want idc but you won't improve your knowledge if you stick to your dreamworld ^^'

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Originally Posted by Neela

ruin lll out of trance is a common thing since months - every smn should do that, nothing new - and believe me... .

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Yeah.... that was me that told you that "months" ago...

And you were shocked. You and about half the other older Summoners here about crapped your pants over it.

Oh but NOW its "the thing" isn't it?

All I can recommend is do research outside of the forums. Most people here don't know as much as they try to make it seem lol.