PSA - Cleric Stance and vote kicking

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Originally Posted by Taika

So when the boss in Antitower turns your DDs to dolls you will stand still and silently look at your tank slowly setting them free?

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I've heard that's a DPS race of sorts. I wonder what happens if neither tank and healer DPS the dolls possessing the DPS...

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Originally Posted by Taika

So when the boss in Antitower turns your DDs to dolls you will stand still and silently look at your tank slowly setting them free?

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Originally Posted by AsahinaMyLove

Never ever used Wanderer Minuett or the Mch to begin with o.O

Its hella annoying + no auto atk + cant atk while dodging <.<
I do more dmg without it.
I dont choose to play mch/brd if it has Mage mode button lol

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If no healer DPS and this person in a group, you know the outcome xDDD.

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Originally Posted by Nestama

I've heard that's a DPS race of sorts. I wonder what happens if neither tank and healer DPS the dolls possessing the DPS...

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It actually kills you haha!

So, wait - When I decide to choose not to get cleric stance from those cross class abilities, since it seems we only get 5 slots to choose from on level 70, and instead take more support ones (Esuna, E4E, Protect, Swift cast, Rescue, Divine Seal), I am to be kicked because of it?

I call BS.

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Originally Posted by Hitsuzen

No one is going to kick a healer and risk waiting another 20 minutes in queue

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I will.

/10char

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Originally Posted by Arrius

So, wait - When I decide to choose not to get cleric stance from those cross class abilities, since it seems we only get 5 slots to choose from on level 70, and instead take more support ones (Esuna, E4E, Protect, Swift cast, Rescue, Divine Seal), I am to be kicked because of it?

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No one said that. People are saying you're more likely to get kicked for not using your DPS abilities now, since the cleric stance excuse is out of the picture.

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Originally Posted by akaneakki

It actually kills you haha!

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/comfort
Did the tank and healer not do anything? or did the DPS tunnel vision?

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Originally Posted by Arrius

So, wait - When I decide to choose not to get cleric stance from those cross class abilities, since it seems we only get 5 slots to choose from on level 70, and instead take more support ones (Esuna, E4E, Protect, Swift cast, Rescue, Divine Seal), I am to be kicked because of it?

I call BS.

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No. Cleric Stance is now just a small buff like Raging Strikes. It'll help if you want to push out damage during a burn phase, but its far from mandatory I imagine. What people will kick you for is if you don't use damaging spells at all, now that theres no stance dancing to worry about.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

I call BS.

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CS is just a damage buff on a 90s CD now. Damage is calculated for healers by MND rather than INT now as well, so you can DPS without any need for stance dancing (as there isn't an actual 'stance' now).

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Originally Posted by Nestama

/comfort
Did the tank and healer not do anything? or did the DPS tunnel vision?

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One of the dps was stuck in it and the DPS didn't try enough while the healer spammed medica 2 on the aoe it does.

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Originally Posted by Arrius

So, wait - When I decide to choose not to get cleric stance from those cross class abilities, since it seems we only get 5 slots to choose from on level 70, and instead take more support ones (Esuna, E4E, Protect, Swift cast, Rescue, Divine Seal), I am to be kicked because of it?

I call BS.

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Nah, it's more about with the change to how Cleric Works and MND now being Healers Damage calculation as well, there honestly is no excuse to not at least throw DOTs when you don't need to heal. For those who just refuse to DPS, they are honestly just being stubborn.