Silver chest farming in PotD, harassed by speedrunners. (More ingored PvE harassment)

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03-28-2017, 07:02 AM
Nghthawk

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

People should not assume "speed running" is the norm, farming for chests is.

Hate to burst your bubble but those looking for upgrades are in the minority when it comes to leveling up other jobs (speed running and/or tome farming). If people are harassing your friend all you can do is report them, black list.
03-28-2017, 07:05 AM
LunaFaye

Free Camille Tea, everyone take a sip!

I am sorry you're having such a bad time in the game, Ama, but I am wondering were you find all these players to begin with. I've made some alts on the aether data center, and to be honest, I found more friendly players with more patience compared to the primal data center. I am not saying that these people you're talking about not exist, but I am wondering how common that kind of behavior is, since I don't see/experience it.

Either way, back in the day you could file reports and nothing would happen. You weren't even sure if supports read them, but since around 2 years actually, I've seen plenty of positive feedback regarding tickets/reports in game as well as via e-mail. I wouldn't say that nobody is doing anything, however it might take a bit longer, considering the sheer amount of players they are dealing with every day.
03-28-2017, 07:09 AM
Vidu

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. SE and the development team wants to prevent toxicity correct? So why take such a drastic action in one thing, where it is not even a huge problem, and not a dress issues that are a big problem? Being ignored also does not help, and I am left sitting here asking why? Why only curb behavior where it is not a big deal and not address more serious things?

Do it completely across the whole game or do not do it at all.

that, if they take actions on PvP they better do it to PvE too otherwise it is unfair. I shouldn't have to deal with PvE toxicity if they want to take actions in PvP

*sigh*
You dont understand the problem that PvP chat was and why they removed it - and why the same issue doesnt apply in PvE - unless your friend was constantly called a noob, scrub, go kill herself and what not because she set foot into new content thats nothing like PvP-chat used to be.
They removed the chat because the behaviour was very unwelcoming to new PvPers and they wanted to engage more people into that content - and even though I dont like it, I can totally understand the reasons behind it. I'm a very calm and normally pretty nice person, but I think I've shocked more than one friend with all my cursing during our PvP-matches.
I'm also a bit confused that you would call "you want chests? Fine I'll just afk here" major toxic behaviour... when its really not - its not cool either since the group should find a compromisse and work together (and yes, that includes someone who wants chest to back off aswell) but if thats already major toxic behavior I'm wondering if you ever even experienced proper PvP chat...

I dont want more babysitting than necessary and I'm not enterily sure that the one in PvP was needed, but asking for even MORE because you're upset about that makes you seem like someone who throws a tantrum and probably really needs a babysitter...

(oh and look what we're doing here - talking about PvP-chat thats not related to your topic at all because you brought it up, yeah!)
03-28-2017, 07:10 AM
CherryCola

No offense, OP, but in Atlaworks defense, you have made multiple topics in the past about "toxic" PVE experiences and in the same post find some way to bring up PvP chat restrictions.

We get it. You feel strongly about the restriction but, packaging it in every toxic PVE experience you have and making a topic about it isn't making others sympathetic to your sentiment. It does the opposite really, as people get tired of seeing it over and over.
03-28-2017, 07:10 AM
Ama_Hamada

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Originally Posted by LunaFaye

Free Camille Tea, everyone take a sip!

I am sorry you're having such a bad time in the game, Ama, but I am wondering were you find all these players to begin with. I've made some alts on the aether data center, and to be honest, I found more friendly players with more patience compared to the primal data center. I amnot saying that these people you're talking about not exist, but I am wondering how common that kind of behavior is, since I don't see/experience it.

Either way, back in the day you could file reports and nothing would happen. You weren't even sure if supports read them, but since around 2 years actually, I've seen plenty of positive feedback regarding tickets/reports in game as well as via e-mail. I wouldn't say that nobody is doing anything, however it might take a bit longer, considering the sheer amount of players they are dealing with every day.

No idea, all I know is that I run into it a lot, heck the other day I was trying to help my friend with BLM relic, yeserday, and we ran into a premade group that was trolling with intentional sabotage. I never seen Thok ast thok get like a level 2 lb with 60% hp to go. I was stunned and disguised that my friend was the only one trying to kill adds while their tank was MPKing us. I am glad they finally abused kicked her so I could leave so we could requeue without 30 minute of downtime. They wasted like 20 minutes of our time wiping it intentionally 3 times though.

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Originally Posted by CherryCola

No offense, OP, but in Atlaworks defense, you have made multiple topics in the past about "toxic" PVE experiences and in the same post find some way to bring up PvP chat restrictions.

We get it. You feel strongly about the restriction but, packaging it in every toxic PVE experience you have and making a topic about it isn't making others sympathetic to your sentiment. It does the opposite really, as people get tired of seeing it over and over.

Well I get tired of SE ignoring us sooo... I feel SE does not know how toxic PvE is, and I am here to shed light on it.
03-28-2017, 07:17 AM
Nghthawk

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

yeserday, and we ran into a premade group that was trolling with intentional sabotage.

Quite frankly this happens in all mmo's so this shouldn't be anything new, its a difference of play style. It's neither right or wrong in what that group did, sure it might be frowned upon but they are in their right to play how they want to just as you and your friend are.
03-28-2017, 07:19 AM
Ama_Hamada

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Originally Posted by Nghthawk

Quite frankly this happens in all mmo's so this shouldn't be anything new, its a difference of play style. It's neither right or wrong in what that group did, sure it might be frowned upon but they are in their right to play how they want to just as you and your friend are.

So you are telling me premades are free to violate the ToS because they have majority? news to me.
03-28-2017, 07:21 AM
Vivi_Bushido

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

It has EVERYTHING to do with it. SE and the development team wants to prevent toxicity correct? So why take such a drastic action in one thing, where it is not even a huge problem, and not address issues that are a big problem? Being ignored also does not help, and I am left sitting here asking why? Why only curb behavior where it is not a big deal and not address more serious things?

No, no it does not. PvP and PvE toxicity are not related. These are two entirely different things. Secondly, speed running is not a form of toxicity. Just because you disagree or do not approve of something does not make it "toxic". There are lots of things that people want to speed run in this game. You're making a mountain out of a mole hill.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Do it completely across the whole game or do not do it at all.

So what you're suggesting is they should remove the ability to chat in dungeons at all throughout the entire game? Okay...

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

that, if they take actions on PvP they better do it to PvE too otherwise it is unfair. I shouldn't have to deal with PvE toxicity if they want to take actions in PvP

You really need to relax. Everything comes in baby sets. Maybe they took action in PvP because they felt it was worse there? I mean, have you ever actually seen PvP toxicity before? Secondly, you could always just ignore people. A lot of trolls and toxic people act that way because they want you to react to them. The reactions is what they want.

The only issue I see here is you and these other people have different goals for PotD that're conflicting with each other. To help with your problem, (one that does not involve restricting chat features); SE could add two versions of PotD. Similar to Diadem's Fury/Matron but instead for PotD. One to queue up with others who are interested with farming for treasure chests and another for those who are interested with speed running.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

Well I get tired of SE ignoring us sooo... I feel SE does not know how toxic PvE is, and I am here to shed light on it.

Ignoring us? Who's us? You're the only one that has a problem with the chat restrictions. :x
03-28-2017, 07:22 AM
Vidu

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

So you are telling me premades are free to violate the ToS because they have majority? news to me.

No, they're not - report them and move on with your life?
If they're actually griefing or harrassing you thats the way to go.
03-28-2017, 07:22 AM
Nghthawk

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

So you are telling me premades are free to violate the ToS because they have majority? news to me.

What they did was not a violation of the ToS, what did the group do that you feel was a violation of the ToS (as you did not include it in the post i quoted)?

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