Jobs are balanced equally and no class is considered meta.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

You never met a good healer if you think a healer would let a mch walk up to them and get hit by that. Purify is a thing anyway, but hey if a healer is letting a mch walk up to them to begin with, guess they would not know about purify right?

You are wrong, outside in between the eyes MCH is easy to heal though, a good drg or mnk on the other hand.... If you hit me with a 8k move like that, you would need help because by time you hit a second ability, I would healed myself, there is a delay, I know when to expect in between the eyes.

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Even if you purify mch stun BTE will still proc and you will still have to use an instant heal and purify will be on CD for 90s. Mch also has multiple burst rotations so another will come out while your purify is down. Not to mention the mch is silencing you and stealing a gcd away from you every 30s.

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Originally Posted by xxczx

https://i.gyazo.com/88ca7361bd883179...93eb2e57ef.png

Feast.

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It doesn't hit that hard under normal circumstances.

Fully self buffed it hits about as hard as fell cleave.
And Im pretty sure fully buffed empyreal arrow hits harder

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Originally Posted by TiramisuMacaron

Mch also has multiple burst rotations

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So does Bard

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Originally Posted by TiramisuMacaron

Not to mention the mch is silencing you and stealing a gcd away from you every 30s.

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Again, Bard does this also

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Originally Posted by Enlial

It doesn't hit that hard under normal circumstances.

Fully self buffed it hits about as hard as fell cleave.
And Im pretty sure fully buffed empyreal arrow hits harder


So does Bard


Again, Bard does this also

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What, you cannot compare bard to mch. Don't even put them on the same level.

1) mchs burst rotation 0 cast time, unlike bard. Mch has a 20s window to use burst, making it nigh impossible for 1 class to shutdown. Not needing 2 dots on the target also helps immensely.
2) mch has a vuneralbilty debuff that cannot be purified, that also helps melee.
3) mchs knockback is on a 30s cooldown instead of a forever cooldown. Bind is also on a super low 20s cooldown. This is probably the most game breaking aspect of mch. Being able to shutdown a melee every 20s or knock a tank off of you before burst is extremely powerful.
4) mchs second burst is extremely more powerful than bards. Honestly I didn't even know a bard could burst more than one way, but I'll take your word for it.
5)mch has a lot more artistic freedom. You can play mindgames with your burst, whereas bard is very static.
6) You lose less in PvP having to mp song your turret than having to sing ballad.
7) mch is extremely more mobile than bard with gauss barrel on, making you lose way less damage while kiting than bard.
8) mch has an ogcd 3s AoE stun. No ranged dps can stun, no class outside of AST and WAR has an AoE ogcd stun. Mch is the only dps class that has this utility. It is insane.
9) brd silence is 1s every 30s. Mch is 2s every 25s. That extra 1s sometimes forces an ogcd whereas brds is just used as a mini interrupt.

There are more things that make mch extremely powerful compared to bard. If you are trying to argue brd is even close to mch in the current meta and this quick list didn't make you think otherwise, I am out of words. Mch so much stronger than any other ranged DPS it isn't even funny.

They called us weak and shunned us at the start of Heavensward.

Let us enjoy our time in the sun. We're probably getting nerfed into the shadow realm in 4.0 :D

or in 3.56 :rolleyes:

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or in 3.56 :rolleyes:

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You shush! No bright ideas!

Please ignore my friend here, they've been drinking or something. Move along :D

A fully buffed BTE does not hit the same as a fell cleave, maybe on patch 3.05 when Seal Rock released but since VIT change on tanks, nothing hits as hard as BTE.

As for the purify on healers thing, while it's very https://i.gyazo.com/6fe224b7c074f5b7...6df25425ca.png that purify is a skill you can use to get yourself out of situations you might die, the animation lag of Clean Shot fits very nicely with Stun Gun & Between the Eyes where they have hardly no animation at all making all three skills nearly instant; killing off your target with a nice 300 potency Ricochet if you use Blank to get them out of crowds. Let's not forget that your Rapid Fire is still up so you can continue on with your combo with no cast time as well as the other skills you have off-CD.

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Originally Posted by Ama_Hamada

How often does that happen though? and clearly was not done to a tank.

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But BTE destroys stacked tanks...

http://i.imgur.com/8XgiJQm.png?1

So many people here that have no idea how PvP is in this game.

Even with purify, or being a tank or whatever, this will DESTROY you. If it doesn't one shot you, the next OGCD nuke will.
Just looking at MCH, they'll pop everything they have, and pump you full with Between the Eyes, Gauss Shot, Ricochet, a push back, stun, Lead shot and if somehow you're still alive, Hypercharge will cripple you for the next person.

Did I mention this all happens within 10 seconds?

.01s - 2s~ for damage applications, if done right.