Remove Malefic II [Ast]

Ruin 1 and 2 should not remain separate. It's pretty dumb to have both when the only reason not to use Ruin 2 over 1 is the MP cost.

Letting us use Ruin 2 with the MP cost of Ruin 1 is not going to break the game or anything.

Also, blind is pretty much useless outside PVP. Bosses are immune to it.

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Originally Posted by ErryK

Can we wait until we see the Stormblood changes before making suggestions?

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I don't get people who say this.
Wait until the expansion that's supposed to change everything drops to suggest things? You do know by then, no matter what your suggestions are, there's no changing it for possibly the next 2 years right?

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

I don't get people who say this.
Wait until the expansion that's supposed to change everything drops to suggest things? You do know by then, no matter what your suggestions are, there's no changing it for possibly the next 2 years right?

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In the same vein right now we are only assuming this and that based on the trickle of information we are being given and YoshiP not being very clear. We won't know the true extent of it all until we see the Stormblood patch notes, so in reality you're both kind of right with this.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

That would be the worst timing. By then the changes would already be set in stone.

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"Set in stone"

https://i.gyazo.com/1df1be1adc83a0ea...09dc1886c8.gif

You were saying?

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Originally Posted by Exiled_Tonberry

I don't get people who say this.
Wait until the expansion that's supposed to change everything drops to suggest things? You do know by then, no matter what your suggestions are, there's no changing it for possibly the next 2 years right?

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By the point the expansion is out, the system exists. Also, they can outright remove and add skills, ie. Stoneskin II in 2.4x.

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Originally Posted by DamianFatale

It's pointless to have both Malefic I and Malefic II. It would be a lot better to just scale Malefic with your level/stats. It's also rather annoying to switch when Malefic II gets level synced out of content.

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I'm personally all for this idea. But not only for ASTs. They'd have to do it with every class that uses a I, II and III version of a certain skill. And make it sync/scale depending on your level (or synced level if you do a lower dungeon)

Edit: I dont know how this would work with healing skills though. Those should probably remain the same.

Any suggestion regarding job adjustments etc will likely be completely ignored this late into the game.

Ask that question towards the start of HW? Sure..
3 months from the expac that is meant to combat skill bloat? Yeah no.. If it's going to happen - it would have already been decided 6-12 months ago.
Which mind you is a high possibility.. Considering their whole reason for the combat overhaul is to reduce skill bloat.

They said they weren't 100% sure about the adjustments to the classss. I don't think it's quite too late.

Can't find the exact quote. But they said we will have the same amount of skills at 70 as we do at 60. Which means some old ones will have to go. Easiest way to do that is combine some of the skills. I wouldn't be surprised if that hasn't already been planned for ast.

So...are we gonna open a new thread for every possible job skill to be removed/modified?



Pretty sure that, if theyre going to remove some Thunder versions of BLM, they will try and apply similar changes to other classes as well.
Since...y'know, every class will need to make room for new skills. This thread is pointless.

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Originally Posted by Averax

Ruin 2 costs much more MP than ruin 1, and applies blind.

These two should remain separate, since you should not be spamming ruin 2 if you don't have to, because you'll be causing diminishing returns on blind.

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Thunder III cost more MP than Thunder II which cost more than Thunder I.
Strangely, SE want to keep Thunder III.
Why can't we have the same thing with Ruin ? (with Blind implement on Ruin II)