The only real way to solve DPS queues

Starting with SB, they should have made dungeons 5 man and upped the health on enemies. However it only partially helps due to it putting more stress on healer and tank which I am sure they are trying to avoid with the upcoming changes.

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Originally Posted by Derio

Starting with SB, they should have made dungeons 5 man and upped the health on enemies. However it only partially helps due to it putting more stress on healer and tank which I am sure they are trying to avoid with the upcoming changes.

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Why that assumption? From the start, even at minimum ilvl, dungeon requirements for healing and mitigation have been rather low, and they only got lower over HW.

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Originally Posted by Altena

Though I do seem to recall you talking about crafting / gathering and looting gear.

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Because crafter and gatherer makes money easily and buy the 4M dungeon minion.

I'd suggest a completely new roulette that will put you into a duty with your role chosen at random.

Make this roulette unlocks after you have all three roles unlocked, and goodbye queues ;)
Or, to be less drastic, let the duty finder queue for multiple roles.

Still won't fix the problem. Every mmo I have played that has the trinity system in place struggles with a shortage of tanks. It has nothing to do with the number of tank classes available, or the number required for any specific content. It has everything to do with people not wanting the responsibility of "leading" group content.

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Originally Posted by AutoWhit

Still won't fix the problem. Every mmo I have played that has the trinity system in place struggles with a shortage of tanks. It has nothing to do with the number of tank classes available, or the number required for any specific content. It has everything to do with people not wanting the responsibility of "leading" group content.

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Alternatively, those with "soft" roles or "spectrum-ed" roles have no such issues, since everyone's about equally capable and culpable of/for group responsibilities. Hmm.

I wouldn't mind having a larger party than 4, I've always felt like 5-6 is better for a party size personally. That being said, I feel as though Palace was their solution to DPS queues since it takes whoever in whatever order they queued in. Now, I do want to add I understand that part of the issue with palace is that there are plenty of fights where if you don't have a healer it's basically impossible. But I attribute that more to a failure in design, specifically, if you're going to create content that can be done without a healer then it needs to be tuned assuming there are no healers or HP recovery, that is currently not the situation.

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Originally Posted by Altena

DPS queues are long, have always been long, and will continue to be long.

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SE's choice of 4-man parties condemned DPS to this problem, no MMO has a proportion of 1:1:2 tank/healer/DPS so why SE thought it a good idea to create this situation is beyond me, especially as their previous MMO had a more useful 1:1:4 ratio.

As long as SE stick to this format, and I see no prospect of their ever changing it as I've never seen them even acknowledge there's a problem, DPS will have to suffer this. :(

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Originally Posted by Pintsized

SE's choice of 4-man parties condemned DPS to this problem, no MMO has a proportion of 1:1:2 tank/healer/DPS .

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Just to nitpick, SWTOR does! :P

Increasing the DPS slots to 3 or 4 instead of 2 would certainly help reduce the waiting times, however, it'd also require more drop rates to compensate, bosses suddenly dropping two or three pieces of gear instead of 1, same with chests.

Other changes that'd be useful for this would be codes to ensure no duplicate item drops, and to ensure only items that can be equipped by those in the party drop, so, no party of PLD/WHM/BLM/BRD dropping gear for DRG or MNK.