What if the new Job is Beastmaster?

XIV's BLM isn't a Final Fantasy Franchise defining BLM, and neither will XIV's RDM be a full representation of RDM, or Bard a real Bard, SMN ever a real SMN, PLD a PLD, etc etc. Why the double standard.

sigh SMN backlash >.< (which frankly I see as as much a grievance of XIV's adherence to role trinity and combat meta as it is about SMN's identity).

Hopefully it's not 10 years :X Hopefully they're overthinking FFXIV pet gameplay or just jaded with that SMN backlash

They have to do something different for pet management, not every pet job should resemble faeries and egis.

but I am perfectly fine if BST's pet was as simple as functioning like a large Minion with an HP bar (as in: no pet aggro, no pet hitbox, no pet positioning), where damage to player is split 80% to 20% between player and pet, pet gets healed for 20% of the heal to the BST, and does damage with +enmity to the BST. The pet being the BST's Tank and DPS stances essentially.

I am not expecting/hoping for all pet focus jobs to be some Pokemon gameplay. It doesn't have to go to that extreme in order to pay homage to the essence of pet themed jobs.

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

They have to do something different for pet management, not every pet job should resemble faeries and egis.

but I am perfectly fine if BST's pet was as simple as functioning like a large Minion with an HP bar (as in: no pet aggro, no pet hitbox, no pet positioning), where damage to player is split 80% to 20% between player and pet, pet gets healed for 20% of the heal to the BST, and delivers AAs with +enmity (routed to the BST). The pet serves essentially as the BST's Tank and DPS stances. A combination of some semblance to Defiance and Darkside, with still plenty of unique capacity.

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This is an overly complicated design for no reason. You'd have them make complex systems in the game for a single job, a health link that's overall pointless and an enmity shift that's even more pointless. Why bother making a system for the pet to route enmity to the BST, instead of just having the BST do all the enmity and centralize it in a much simpler and easier way.

They don't have the best track record with pet jobs, and often times pet jobs are among the least played jobs. It's potentially a ton of extra work for just one job.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

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But I wants BST!!!!

Personally I like pet classes. Back in Guild Wars 1 I had numerous pets: Ranger/Mesmer (wolf), Necromancer/Ranger (wolf), Mesmer/Ranger (feline). And in Guild Wars 2 I was taming numerous pets on my Ranger and using one as DPS. It's be fun to do the same here collecting numerous pets.

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Originally Posted by Shippuu

This is an overly complicated design for no reason. You'd have them make complex systems in the game for a single job, a health link that's overall pointless and an enmity shift that's even more pointless.

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Well, one reason being I'd rather not see Shield Oath copy-pasted to the next Tank Job for the second time in a row.

It's complicated because you may still thinking of pets like Egi/Faerie. The above could have sounded like machine language, sorry, i was trying to be concise.

I said, 'like a minion' meaning they appear to be fighting, but the execution is actually coming from the player controlled BST. The pet doesn't really attack, the BST does. Having the 'Pet' summoned though gives you bonus AAs like SwOath stance.

There wouldn't be an enmity transfer because the pet doesn't have enmity, the pet isn't really there, it's a stance, a gate, a mechanic like Defiance or Darkside.

ShieldOath/Grit nullify 20% damage. The pet-as-a-stance does the same but not so easily, because the pet is actually just Defiance's +max HP bonus & HP recovered buffs in disguise. Instead of getting the 25% max bonus directly to your HP bar, it goes to the bottom of the party list where pets usually go (the faux pet), it then eats 20% of any damage you receive up until it dies.

While this is the approach I would prefer to BST, I meant more to give this as an example illustrating that we don't need literal pet controls and instruction to make a "pet job", (in this case, BST job is a Barrier tank - the pet being the barrier to manage), just make the pet a fundamental mechanic to whatever role responsibility the job has.

It should be nice to pay respects to the franchise history, but it also has to do so in a way that fits within this game. If they or we aren't willing to concede to that than yeah it will never happen.

I dont see a link between this job and Spiderman :( they should give to SMN other colored carbuncle but also some monsters like a little behemoth or whatever. We have seen a behemoth go out from a book no ? :p

Oh so you want to transform into a glowing chicken nugget, rather than summoning one :)

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Originally Posted by Xenosan

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sounds more fun to party with a chocobo, and call yourself beastmaster.

If it's a pet job it would probably be a copy of SMN which....sucks at being a pet class ^^"

Maybe a FF10-2 berseker type then ?
http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/...20061219002230
Some kind of a monk but with the berserker attitude of the WAR ? Could be fun to have some abilities that makes your character attack frenzy with loosing the abilitie to control it for some times (would require a good knowledge of the fights which could bring some challenge)
And we could have a LB that turns us into a fuzzy monster (would love to see this applied to Lala xD)

I know the proposed take on the Beastmaster Class is not in-line with a lot of previous FF portrayals of the class, but as others have said, many of the Jobs aren't like that currently in FFXIV due to the Role System. Another pet job wouldn't bring anything new or interesting to the table. Transformations, however, are something new, especially if the weapon is what determines the form, because it adds quite a bit of selection and customization through glamours.

A new spin on an old class, in short. Granted I'm pretty sure this isn't coming in 4.0, but I don't think I'd mind seeing it in the future either. Transformation seems to be the only untapped job design mechanic SE hasn't incorporated yet.