Hooking a WoW veteran

1. You get some EXP once you complete every set of floors (1-10, 11-20, 21-30, etc.) so yes you can level up outside while doing the same in PoTD.

2.Yes, it's shared with everyone. No worries there.

You get a decent chunk of experience every 10 floors you complete (you also only get to keep aether upgrades & chest drops if you down the 10th floor boss). The chests are shared so you don't have to worry about mad dashes, but there are invisible traps you'll have to be mindful of. You could party up with your friend and go in as a fixed party and give it a try with just the two of you to get your feet wet.

Well then! This sounds like it may be my best chance to show him the best of the game and help gently get his outside job up high enough that the gameplay becomes interesting. Thank you all! If anyone has other ideas as well for how to get this fish in the boat, do let me know. :)

Use abilitys inbetween gcd i dont get people crying about it being slow

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Originally Posted by Dumbledoremd

Use abilitys inbetween gcd i dont get people crying about it being slow

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When you're at level 20, you're lucky to have even one oGCD move. For what it's worth, OP's friend is also playing a SCH, whose only oGCD even at endgame is Energy Drain and some healing abilities that you really shouldn't just blow willy-nilly so you "feel like you're doing something".

I'm not sure if Palace of the Dead is the way to go. I only have limited experience from it, but since you gain levels so fast inside the zone, things can get pretty overwhelming and it's not an ideal way to try to learn to play any class properly at level 60. The experience isn't likely to be very pleasant.

I would instead recommend checking out some interesting endgame fights and level 60 rotations from a video. If your friend prefers fast combat, let him check for example Monk level 60 rotation or fight PoV videos, if he likes WoW style proc based combat, let him check MCH. If he wants to stay as a healer, show him some great solo heal videos!

isn't every MMO a snooze-fest at early levels?
i'd suggest doing palace of the dead, because you can quickly level a character to 60, get ALL skills, and try out how combat feels at max level. you should be lv 60 by floor 55-60 - it takes about 30ish min for every 10 floors; the sucky part is ofc that you don't keep your PotD levels when you exit, but you can get an ilv230 wep if you convert PotD arm/armor enhance levels.
well i agree, going through all the MSQ is like a never-ending nightmare, but it's quite fast leveling.

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Originally Posted by Arkazon

Well then! This sounds like it may be my best chance to show him the best of the game and help gently get his outside job up high enough that the gameplay becomes interesting. Thank you all! If anyone has other ideas as well for how to get this fish in the boat, do let me know. :)

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One important thing you need to know about POTD though: If you go in without a Job Soul Crystal equipped, you wont be able to learn/use ANY of your 30+ skills.

Example: If he goes in on his Arcanist, once he levels to level 30 inside POTD, he will stop learning new skills.. He'll be stuck with just his Arcanist skillset for the rest of the time inside POTD.. So As awful as the grind may feel, getting to level 30 and getting his soul stone before you guys enter POTD and create the save file would be the best bet..

I am a WoW veteran and it took me three tries to get into FFXIV, and the horrible Warlords of Draenor and Garrisons to cement me here.

WoW is slow as hell at the start too - all games are. The GCD was a really hard sell for me, but after a while I got used to it. It's a challenge in a different way and makes you think differently about using an ability at the right time, to my mind, compare to WoW's. Also, have them consider choosing a 'busy' class like MNK or SMN/SCH with a lot to think about. Positioning, good pet management + two classes for the price of one helped me enjoy the game more.

That, and this game is beautiful.

I wish your friend well, regardless of what the decides to play!

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Originally Posted by loreleidiangelo

When you're at level 20, you're lucky to have even one oGCD move. For what it's worth, OP's friend is also playing a SCH, whose only oGCD even at endgame is Energy Drain and some healing abilities that you really shouldn't just blow willy-nilly so you "feel like you're doing something".

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Bane is an ACN ability and so SCH has Bane as well. And aetheflow stacks should be used on a regular basis because MP management is reliant upon the regular use of stacks and replenishment with aetherflow. Unused stacks when replenishing aetherflow are wasted so may as well use them. Of course it all also comes down to knowing what you need and when depending on the fight. So yeah - don't use willy nilly, but also don't be shy about using because you can refresh your stacks every 60 seconds.