That's not entirely true. The sole reason iddyllshire is as laggy as it is and takes so long to load for many players is the sheer number of people afk there... that has nothing to do with internet route to servers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pintsized
Mor dhona was exactly the same in ARR but the problem magically vanished when the afkers all left and went to afk in iddyllshire..
That said I wouldn't be against an afk auto log timer but it would depend on the time limits involved.
If i'd just finished gathering cuprites and had about half an hour to kill before I could go back and get chysahl greens. I quite often just afk and clean the house a bit, make a start on dinner or something so if I got logged off after 30 minutes. just before my nodes started spawning again i'd be pretty annoyed with it.
If i'd gone to work and left my game running though it wouldn't really bother me in the slightest if it auto logged me out after 2-3 hours of inactivity.
some queues I can imagine could be a problem, but they could add a simple prompt every hour or so. for players to check if they're still queuing... that could lead to less of those queues where you're at 23/24 players and always one who doesn't hit the ready check. then it takes 10-15 minutes for it to ding again.
Possible timer for open world AFK'ers?
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12-21-2016, 08:59 PMDzian
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12-21-2016, 10:19 PMaesteval
Totally not needed to have auto kick AFK on all the time. I'm on a reasonably well populated server and there are only login queues in two cases: 1) when servers go down and no one can log back in, 2) when Heavensward came out and there was a big influx of players. Auto kick AFK won't do anything for situation 1, and auto kick AFK was implemented for situation 2. It doesn't need to be on all the time. Presumably we should see it again for a bit with Stormblood and that's fine.
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12-21-2016, 10:22 PMaestevalOk, yeah - Idyllshire can get bad with loading due to the number of players. In that case maybe implement an auto kick for heavily populated areas and not server wide?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dzian
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12-21-2016, 10:29 PMPaladinleedsDoesn't Balmung ALWAYS have a login queue though? I know you can almost never make characters there unless you pay to transfer them over. Wouldn't that make a good candidate for a server auto-kick feature. Someone said people will still hack something together, well, that'll be some and not enough to make the feature useless.Quote:
Originally Posted by aesteval
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12-21-2016, 10:49 PMaestevalBut if Balmung is a problem, then no need for all the other servers deal with their hassle. XD Give Balmung an auto kick and be done with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
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12-21-2016, 10:55 PMMistakeNotMost of the time there is no login queue for Balmung, and when there is, it is very rare that it takes more than a minute or two to get through the queue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paladinleeds
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12-21-2016, 10:57 PMMistakeNotActually, no. Most other MMOs kick out players after they have been AFK for too long. Few people have a problem with it elsewhere, so I do not understand why it would be a problem here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Raynar
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12-21-2016, 11:23 PMPaladinleedsSo does that mean character creation is open a lot more often nowadays on Balmung? Glad to hear it's changed, last I heard it was always closed except for like maybe 2 minutes after servers come back up... Glad to hear it's changed though!Quote:
Originally Posted by MistakeNot
That's kinda what I was trying to say by saying the followingQuote:
Originally Posted by aesteval
As in Balmung would be a good server to use it on. :PQuote:
Doesn't Balmung ALWAYS have a login queue though? I know you can almost never make characters there unless you pay to transfer them over. Wouldn't that make a good candidate for a server auto-kick feature.
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12-21-2016, 11:34 PMChiiSoSeriouz
There's a couple countermeasures they've used to deal with congestion in the past. They turned on the afk boot before and they also turned on mirrored open world zones, where there were instances for each zone and it would place you in one randomly if you teleported to that zone. For example, two players would teleport to the same zone, but you would be in 1 and they would be in 2, so you would never see each other. This made hunts a hassle to get to unless you entered the zone by the actual border. They actually kept that feature up longer on the high pop worlds when congestion was really bad back then, which means they monitor it closely. So if they're not using these anymore then it's clearly not needed, it might be when stormblood is live though.
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12-22-2016, 12:12 AMAlenaar
YES, PLEASE.
This is an online game, it requires a constant and stable connection. Through the years, us players had the chance to experience all sorts of issues: full worlds, long load times, lag, disconnects - granted, there are many factors that contribute to these, but why leave in one that could be helped? Also through the years, we have heard the devs themselves citing network infrastructure and everything related as causes of various issues, or reasons for why certain things can not be done.
Yet, despite all these, everyone seems to think that logging in and going AFK is perfectly fine?? And no, this isn't about a few 10 minutes, this is about characters rooted to the same spot with the little red chair next to their names for 4-6-10-16 hours. Sometimes even a day or two - I have seen such myself. These are just extreme and should not be allowed.
There is no valid reason why anyone should be AFK for more than hour; if that's the case, they probably have something much more important that's come up than a videogame. However little it may seem, the load on the servers could be lessened with the AFK autokick active. It needs to be there, it IS there in every online game with a bit of common sense, it needs to be able to detect "clever" circumvention attempts, such as inactive crafting or running against a wall. At the very least it needs to kick people who are idle for more than an hour.