Savage Difficulty Alliance Raids and Objective based PvP Battlegrounds

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Originally Posted by MomomiMomi

Premades win almost every time because they're simply superior at killing and staying alive and PUGs can do much about it. Try that against 2 other premades and you'll lose.

Premades should never be used as an example of normal gameplay unless you're against other premades. Compare PUG vs. PUG and see if they can do the same thing.

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Hmm idk what that would change if your pugs are superior at killing or if your premade is superior at killing doesnt make a difference if your team is superior at killing you can win without the objectives easily in this game since objectives dont reward u as much as killing. Also even if there is a premade vs premade as soon as you are superior and getting highs/fevers the only thing that can stop your group is a sandwich. The premade vs premade argument doesnt work since the benefit of killing ppl will make the better team unstoppable cause of highs/fevers. "paintrain" is a thing. Most pug matches are decided by the "killing" factor.

No. If you have two or three nearly-equally skilled and organized parties clashing they will inadvertently cause each other to stalemate. Prevent any group from building up to many fevers/highs. As soon as one person gets a high they become a primary target and quickly killed by focus fire.

"Paintrains" only really occur when there is an extreme difference in organization levels i.e. a Premade 6-8 person premade vs 2 pugs and the Premade abuses the 3rd place multiplier for Adrenalin Surges so that they get a larger number of them.

Premades as you should very well know are mostly made up of organized dps and their pocket healer(s) which a nearly impossible for non-organized groups to kill.

Most Pug matches are not determined by kills but by the side that best grabbed objectives. You can see this by the score totals at the end of matches. Often the winning team is not the one with the most points gained from kills but the one with the least points lost to deaths.

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Originally Posted by Ultimatecalibur

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Strange my own experience after 2500+ frontline (premade and pug) matches showed me the oppositem. If your team is good at killing and killing the right team at the right time you will win more likely than everything else. Also idk if 2 premades fight and someone gets high doesnt mean the high will die. More likely the that the high makes it easier to wipe out the other premade. Only mode where objective really mattered was secure.