why is castrum and praetorium not an instance

on top of that wow the system is flawed the stupid book isnt even letting me watch the cut scenes from castrom I really cant believe this right now

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Originally Posted by EveK

First and foremost, I recommend using the "undersized" option in Duty Finder and doing these dungeons with as few as two others that are happy to wait for you to properly watch cut scenes.

Secondly, common though it may be, players trying to force you into speed running it has never been an acceptable thing. If they refuse to play nice, it's actually something GMs will punish if you take the time to report it.

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This^

Just that I don't think it really needs a fix, it's part of the specially designed "Duty Roulette: Main Scenario Roulette" anyone queueing for it should assume the common possibility of players enjoying the cutscenes during the run.

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Originally Posted by Chocolys

This^

Just that I don't think it really needs a fix, it's part of the specially designed "Duty Roulette: Main Scenario Roulette" anyone queueing for it should assume the common possibility of players enjoying the cutscenes during the run.

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Well they dont ha , Im having to watch it now on youtube which ive never done in any game because this wasnt problem, because the journal book in the inn room doesnt work as intended, and everyone commenting on the video is saying that they got lefted behind , so it def needs a fix a new player has like a 20 percent chance of being able to watch the cut scenes so what was the point in the 130 quest to not even see the ending

@bswpayton: Sadly, but nobody can force you to skip cutscenes, you are in control of them. The only thing a group can do is votekick you for it, which is a punishable offense and you can report it. Just ignore anyone attempting to make you rush.

The one thing you can truly miss is fights, some part of the instance can be cleaned by other players while you watch the cutscenes.

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Originally Posted by Chocolys

@bswpayton: Sadly, but nobody can force you to skip cutscenes, you are in control of them. The only thing a group can do is votekick you for it, which is a punishable offense and you can report it. Just ignore anyone attempting to make you rush.

The one thing you can truly miss is fights, some part of the instance can be cleaned by other players while you watch the cutscenes.

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I just dont see why its still the same as it was before if they can put pumpkins in the game during halloween they can change this to something solo, that way parties are gettin pissed and new players can watch the cut scenes

Sadly, if they change it to solo, it would actually take some aspects out of the game lore - as the story is actually not just you invading, it is an "Adventurer unit" that is doing the raid into Castrum and Prae. As for the people running it and trying to make you skip CS's, as others have said, ignore them, and if you're vote kicked, report it.

Other options include:
- Make a Party Finder to ask for help, specify in the info, "Story driven, no cutscene skipping" and that you want to participate in the fights.
- Ask LS or FC to go with you.
- Watch the CS's and then do the fights instead your next run.

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Originally Posted by Lyraele

Errrr. What? I hit 50 this weekend and watched all the cut scenes. I even asked if there was a way to skip them since they held up the group so long and everyone told me to just enjoy them, it was no big deal. The groups were clearly over-geared, I still could barely tell you what happened during the fights, they were so fast. Isn't there a way to watch the cutscenes outside of running the instance again? I eventually found the setting to ignore cutscenes I've already seen so as not to hold up future groups.

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This happens a lot. People don't care if watch it because it is by now a easy clear. With that in mind I'm still completely lost in the complaining about it. Just watch it, ignore the cruel people that tell you to skip it. To be fair, the coils have similar set up, not as bad but still.

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Originally Posted by bswpayton

I just dont see why its still the same as it was before if they can put pumpkins in the game during halloween they can change this to something solo, that way parties are gettin pissed and new players can watch the cut scenes

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The Pumpkins are a simple past through(You can walk through it) graphic in front of the the world, it is NOT the same as changing it to solo b/c it would cause it to be balanced for a solo player. I would rather have them work on new content than that.

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Originally Posted by Kathranis

This happens a lot. People don't care if watch it because it is by now a easy clear. With that in mind I'm still completely lost in the complaining about it. Just watch it, ignore the cruel people that tell you to skip it. To be fair, the coils have similar set up, not as bad but still.

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That and it is about 20 minutes worth of cutscene.

OP, I understand your frustration. I didn't get the luxury of watching cutscenes when I did Castrum and Praetorium on my main (the character you see me posting as), and watching the again in the inn room wasn't the same. Before the circle even drops to commence the duty, people already start complaining about the person(s) they see that are "Viewing Cutscene." This even happened on an alt when I was watching the cutscene before you fight Ifrit for the first time. I got in the habit of just skipping dungeon cutscenes because I was tired of getting yelled at for it, but I regret doing so. However, changing those two duties to solo instances would take a lot of reworking and tweaking, and I don't think that's something the devs are going to be willing to do. Plus, as mentioned by someone else, it does mess with the lore aspect, and the devs (barring that Yokai event) are very peculiar about lore, and make a lot of restrictions based on it.

I would highly suggest asking friends to run it with you, or make a PF for it. Don't just pick the "story" reasons objective either, type out that you want to watch all cutscenes so people who see it know, and also let them know when they join (because I don't think many bother to read the PF objectives, and just join when they see the duty--like the Ex primal clears people join and then complain when they learn its a clear and not a farm). I plan to ask my FC mates to run it with me on my alt so I can experience it on her as it should be experienced. Still doesn't take away the regrets I feel for my main though.

If you decide to run it as is, and people grief you for it, report them. And hopefully something will be done about them. A lot of the GMs in this game are very understanding and helpful, and I think they WILL take actions against player who threaten to kick you for just trying to do the story as it was designed to be done.