PSN and FFXIV: why pay twice?

while you do not need PS plus in order to play FFXIV, you do need to have PSN working correctly to even log in unless you're one of the lucky ones who was already online before PSN went down.

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Originally Posted by Caitlinzulu

Thats not entirely true, if you get a DC due to a local network fault and get kicked back to the lobby server where you can select your character, DON'T try to log back in before you are shure you connection is up and running again or you are kicked further back to the first boot screen, and since PSN could be down the version check will not succeed leaving you unable to log back in.

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Well let me restate my statement. I've never had what you said happened. Everytime PSN was down I was never kicked off nor have I had a DC when it was happening. Actually no there was one time I did DC but I was able to log right back in with no issues. Thats how I found out PSN was down that day and was told as long as I'm ingame I got nothing to worry about. So far this has been true. Tho yes... if you dig enough anything and everything can happen. Guess I'm just lucky. Even tho I use comcast.

Seems psn is down right now

Wait, so is PSN down right now? I was just about to log in.

Perhaps not in all area's apparently a huge DOS attack also affecting twitter and other services

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Originally Posted by MeeDeggiThePunisher

Wait, so is PSN down right now? I was just about to log in.

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Yup, a giant DDOS attack has shut down a lot of major websites and service today. They been going up and down all day.

Yeah it's down. I can't upload a screenshot I took but I'm in game so -shrug- Actually funny story I logged completely off and logged back into the game and no issues... but PSN is clearly down. So heh... talk about random.

I haven't used PS plus for years as this is pretty much the only game I play online except when I have to, and I am still able to play. So this statement is wrong.

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Originally Posted by Bebekurenai

As it is right now, there are issues with PSN. They are experiencing "difficulties". Not for the first time and surely not for the last time. And with it, no chance of playing FFXIV right now.
Now, I understand we pay PSN a fee for their online services such as streaming, voice chat, uploading on social media and other minor features. And apparently we will pay more next year. Great.
PSN, just like XBox live, has been DDOS's a few times, and hackers brought the service down for days, rendering us unable to connect to FFXIV.

My main complaints are:
Why do we have to pay an extra fee to PSN only to use our own internet connection and play FFXIV? Why can't we play when clearly our connection is running but not PSN? Why are we not getting a discount on our subscription of FFXIV?

I can understand that I can't stream or upload anything, or even chat with my PSN friends when the service is down, that is logical, but come on! Can't use my own internet to play FFXIV because it's linked to PSN and has to go trough their server?

What kind of lame deal have you given us SE?

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You do know that there was a major DDOS attack on several US based services/companies today right? Not everything is SE's fault... And you're not paying twice, you're paying SE AND Sony. One for the game, one for the network...

It's not SE's fault that PSN sucks so much and it's frequently down for many reasons thus you can't play. If you want to bypass that you are playing on the wrong platform. SE has nothing to do with the PSN.