unfinished game asking full price is unreasonable

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Originally Posted by xanj

i have been looking around for a while where does it say that?

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Ok yes people WILL be jerks but the issue is, those of us, even myself with very little game play time, still keep up with what is occurring in the game. So, with that being said, here is the last Live Letter. Also, here is a link to Reinheart's Translation Thread the answer to your question is at the bottom. If you do not want to read the whole thing to get caught up on what IS going on, I copied and pasted for you below.





F: lets call him since he's there waiting. Wada youichi.

W: Thank you for supporting; as Yoshida mentioned to make it a quality game we have to ask for payment.
W: wanted to talk abotu payment, there are lots of things coming but in order to make this happen we ask for
W: we are looking into discount to get as much players possible.

Y: We want to get as much players so we want to look into discount
W: You guys are showing lots of info but whats this?
Y: It's time so that it for today
W: what thats it?

Thank you, bye

Edit: Btw, Reinheart takes time out of his day to translate not only these big Live events but also what the Japanese players are discussing so we can know what most players else where are thinking too. Take a little extra time to read and do a search before you make a thread that way, you don't get flamed. :)

That doesn't help much, they say Discount. But how much of a Discount? We talking 50%? 10%? This is why I hate SE they never are specific about anything. Everytime they get Interview they alway answer the obvious and they didn't answer as all.. We are thinking about it and may have plan for it in the future.

For the Discount it could have been only $2 dollar off. Bwahaha!

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

That doesn't help much, they say Discount. But how much of a Discount? We talking 50%? 10%? This is why I hate SE they never are specific about anything. Everytime they get Interview they alway answer the obvious and they didn't answer as all.. We are thinking about it and may have plan for it in the future.

For the Discount it could have been only $2 dollar off. Bwahaha!

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the official letter says it a little different. not like it matters few people are ready to hand se their pay check for new missing content and useless items to earn bragging rights to playing a broken game. game is not worth a sub anyhow.

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Originally Posted by Darkrose

That doesn't help much, they say Discount. But how much of a Discount? We talking 50%? 10%? This is why I hate SE they never are specific about anything. Everytime they get Interview they alway answer the obvious and they didn't answer as all.. We are thinking about it and may have plan for it in the future.

For the Discount it could have been only $2 dollar off. Bwahaha!

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No one knows yet the discount.

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Originally Posted by Crunkjuice

the official letter says it a little different. not like it matters few people are ready to hand se their pay check for new missing content and useless items to earn bragging rights to playing a broken game. game is not worth a sub anyhow.

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That's your opinion. Some people, myself included, understand that in order to GET to 2.0 and all the stuff you are saying isn't worth paying for at THIS time, you have to give something. They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses. If you can find any other company willing to listen to players and continue to lose more and more money yet offer a better game; post that info here please. ;)

Judging by the number of views these threads get (including this one), I can tell there are numerous people with this same complaint. Looks like Square Enix better be careful.

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Originally Posted by Geesus

That's your opinion. Some people, myself included, understand that in order to GET to 2.0 and all the stuff you are saying isn't worth paying for at THIS time, you have to give something. They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses. If you can find any other company willing to listen to players and continue to lose more and more money yet offer a better game; post that info here please. ;)

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well they do it because final fantasy is their flagship its the game that put square soft/enix whichever on the map, their reputation aka future sales are on the line so you can bet they will try to bail it out

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Originally Posted by Geesus

That's your opinion. Some people, myself included, understand that in order to GET to 2.0 and all the stuff you are saying isn't worth paying for at THIS time, you have to give something. They already have lost close to if not more than 7 billion in expenses. If you can find any other company willing to listen to players and continue to lose more and more money yet offer a better game; post that info here please. ;)

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We're not paying for 2.0. We're paying for 1.x. Even if we all abandon the game and they get nary a sub, 2.0 will come out.

And the earnings losses SE has experienced isn't from XIV alone, 2010 wasn't a good year for the company. The difference between SE and every other company in the world is everyone else listens to their customers from the start, thus avoiding the need to back track and avoid multi-million dollar mistakes.

This attitude I keep seeing that we as consumers owe SE anything is absurd. They released a faulty product. They asked us to stick around. They decided to take two years and rebuild the game. Therefore, they chose to take the most costly route to fix an already costly mistake.

That said, I hope 1.20 is worth it. I'm glad we get to try it out before we pay. But that patch better impress the pants off a lot of people starting with being released in the time frame SE set for itself otherwise the servers will be ghost towns.

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Originally Posted by xanj

asking full price for a unfinished game is ridiculous may i suggest something more reasonable like say 5 buck a month

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Cause we will never get a finished game if they cannot pay ppl to complete it. We got a free year, no need to be so unreasonable

I would be surprised if it wasn't 50% off; if you are math savvy (and I am sure the math wizards at SE HQ figured this out) they can make more money with half off subs having 90%-100% of the current player base paying for the game then they would if they didn't give a discount and have 60%-70% of the current player base paying.

There are not stupid, a little slow, but not stupid ;)
Luv u S-E~

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Originally Posted by PrettyPrincess

how about you actually read? We're getting a discounted sub. wtf is wrong with you people ~.~

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[Citation Needed]

All they ever said is that they could "consider" it, which is a far cry from flat out stating "you're getting a discount".