Yoshida, The Creator: Savage is the worst tuning ever in an MMO

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

Didn't people ask for the gear they got in raids to be useful in the next tier? Now that they've done that, people are complaining? lol....

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Last gear of each expansion has always been "useful" at the next, Ironworks and Dreadwyrm was relevant till level 54-55.
Shire and Alexandrian will be relevant probably the same way.

So no, they did nothing people asked for, aside taking the "reduce the difficulty a bit" to "the ground". SE is incapable of properly balance things, content and performance, AST is their way to buff things, BRD is their way to nerf things, and all of alexander has been their example of terribly handled balance (gordias too hard checks, midas too messy dances, and alexander, way too easy everything).

Someone in that development team has to be fired. Its obviously doing a terrible job.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

Last gear of each expansion has always been "useful" at the next, Ironworks and Dreadwyrm was relevant till level 54-55.
Shire and Alexandrian will be relevant probably the same way.

Someone in that development team has to be fired. Its obviously doing a terrible job.

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No, people in other threads have been asking that the gear they get in raids is not immediately made useless on a patch, and want to use that gear in the next raid. This is what they did, you can use gear in the previous tier, and use it in Creator. So thats what people asked for.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

Last gear of each expansion has always been "useful" at the next, Ironworks and Dreadwyrm was relevant till level 54-55.
Shire and Alexandrian will be relevant probably the same way.

So no, they did nothing people asked for, aside taking the "reduce the difficulty a bit" to "the ground". SE is incapable of properly balance things, content and performance, AST is their way to buff things, BRD is their way to nerf things, and all of alexander has been their example of terribly handled balance (gordias too hard checks, midas too messy dances, and alexander, way too easy everything).

Someone in that development team has to be fired. Its obviously doing a terrible job.

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Cant take serious someone who is complaining in all threads.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

No, people in other threads have been asking that the gear they get in raids is not immediately made useless on a patch, and want to use that gear in the next raid. This is what they did, you can use gear in the previous tier, and use it in Creator. So thats what people asked for.

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Thing is, right now is not raid gear the one being usefull... And since it was balanced for i240, eikon and midan gear are good enough and crafted i250 is not entry anymore, is overkill in 3 more months with people close to i270...

Yes, that is something people had been asking for, but this wasn't the moment to implement them, cause that means a complete change of the reward structure for high end. It requieres changes only viable in a expansion, not midway through it.

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Originally Posted by Frederick22

Cant take serious someone who is complaining in all threads.

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You take me seriously enough to quote me and make me your only comment.

Just ignore him. This thread is about discussing the tuning of the current Savage content.

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Originally Posted by Valkyrie_Lenneth

No, people in other threads have been asking that the gear they get in raids is not immediately made useless on a patch, and want to use that gear in the next raid. This is what they did, you can use gear in the previous tier, and use it in Creator. So thats what people asked for.

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You mis-interpret what those complaints are about. Those complaints are leveled squarely at the "gear treadmill" and "vertical" gear progression model that FFXIV currently employs. You are always able to use last raid's gear to help progression in the current tier, the difference being that before it was never really enough.

Crafted gear actually takes this a step further by being more powerful than the previous raid by a huge margin, so for people like me who hunted out the new crafted gear right away for progression, I did have all my previous gear made useless on a patch anyways.

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Originally Posted by Kyne_Lyons

Crafted gear actually takes this a step further by being more powerful than the previous raid by a huge margin, so for people like me who hunted out the new crafted gear right away for progression, I did have all my previous gear made useless on a patch anyways.

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Actually that was sad.

All my previous gear was good for at this patch, was to be turned in for GC seals to get materials to craft the new one.

The problem with Alexander as a whole is they started off wrong and Gordias was overtuned to where only the 5% of people got through A3S, the rest were on Pepsiman for months until everyone said screw it. So many people wanted to pick up raiding but they hit the wall or couldn't get through it, statics breaking up etc. Midas comes out then others start to clear it as OP said but still not many people cleared the final raid and here we are in Creator where I take it in a week people midcore and casual will either be at A10S or A11S the raid is very accessible but that's not the issue.

The issue is Gordias was very INaccessible to the point where Gordias is harder than Midas and Creator whereas it should be the other way around, it's backwards and a very strange design choice, although Yoshi P said that the content in 4.0 isn't going to be as hard or punishing. I've only started on A9S this morning and we almost cleared it got em to bout 20% before I had to go get ready for work but here's the thing the raids are actually fun and doesn't have a lot of bullsh*t in it i'm actually looking forward to raiding with my friends again in content that's fun.

I'd be happy if they don't totally scrap Savage in the next expansion, tune normal mode a little harder and say 'this is what you get for all the complaining'.

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Originally Posted by Alexander_Dragonfang

Thing is, right now is not raid gear the one being usefull... And since it was balanced for i240, eikon and midan gear are good enough and crafted i250 is not entry anymore, is overkill in 3 more months with people close to i270...

Yes, that is something people had been asking for, but this wasn't the moment to implement them, cause that means a complete change of the reward structure for high end. It requires changes only viable in a expansion, not midway through it.

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The devs had the choice of making it like Midas or Gordias, both of which have nearly killed this game's raiding community, or making it easier to get into in order to get people to raid again. The devs chose wisely given what they had in hand.