a question about the upcoming platoons/squadrins

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Originally Posted by Balipu

That likely won't happen. Or at least not without restrictions. I mean this is still a multiplayer game. We can't have people playing with squadrons instead of socializing.
What I could see is the game requiring you to first clear something with a player party and after that let you do those again with a sqadron.

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I don't mind having to clear it first with some other people, there are friends for a reason. However, with the amount of times we run the same dungeons over and over, give people something to not be forced into groups constantly. I said it before and I say it again. An MMO that needs to force people to group up with strangers for everything doesn't do it right. What is social about landing in a group of people from another server that doesn't say a word and that you will never see again? Right, nothing at all.

Also, I am not talking about raids for example. Yesterday I attempted a leveling roulette, twice. Both times the people were so bad I rather left than risk losing my sanity. I want to choose who I socialize with and when I do it. I don't play an MMO to be alone constantly but I also don't play it to be bombarded with force grouping for every little thing.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

That likely won't happen. Or at least not without restrictions. I mean this is still a multiplayer game. We can't have people playing with squadrons instead of socializing.
What I could see is the game requiring you to first clear something with a player party and after that let you do those again with a sqadron.

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This is very true but it would reduce the having to wait an hr for duty if you could just queue up with a squadron, but yeah this is a social game so it is probably not mean't for that
Does seem rather pointless though if it's just like a retainer type of thing, unless perhaps they can get us some glam gear? huehue

So I apologize for not understanding as quickly as others but from what everyone is saying is that we will be able to train and build a team of our own. Did they say how many we can end up using? I guess it would be 4, to compensate for whatever roll you fill in. I'd like it to be 8, to maybe play in older raids to practice for myself, but maybe that's too much to ask.

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Originally Posted by Balipu

That likely won't happen. Or at least not without restrictions. I mean this is still a multiplayer game. We can't have people playing with squadrons instead of socializing.
What I could see is the game requiring you to first clear something with a player party and after that let you do those again with a sqadron.

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Just curious, do you think they will leave Roulettes then to keep you in the social loop? Using squadrons to select specific dungeons for you to clear in DF but not roulettes? Didn't they mention them being controlled like a gambit system in XII?

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Originally Posted by Leigaon

So I apologize for not understanding as quickly as others but from what everyone is saying is that we will be able to train and build a team of our own. Did they say how many we can end up using? I guess it would be 4, to compensate for whatever roll you fill in. I'd like it to be 8, to maybe play in older raids to practice for myself, but maybe that's too much to ask.



Just curious, do you think they will leave Roulettes then to keep you in the social loop? Using squadrons to select specific dungeons for you to clear in DF but not roulettes? Didn't they mention them being controlled like a gambit system in XII?

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Dunno. I'm just theory crafting. It definitely won't replace DF as that would be suicide but it won't be a reskin of Retainer ventures either cause that would be pointless.

Speaking of DF. I still need to find people for unsyched final coil. Funny how clearing Mhach is easier, huh?

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Originally Posted by Maero

This is very true but it would reduce the having to wait an hr for duty if you could just queue up with a squadron, but yeah this is a social game so it is probably not mean't for that
Does seem rather pointless though if it's just like a retainer type of thing, unless perhaps they can get us some glam gear? huehue

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A system already exists to prevent 100 percent solo orientation. Just do the same concept as allowances. Say you get X amount of uses per hour or week, if you exhaust your uses. You let it build up like leve allowances. This cost would only apply when doing content designed for party play. Things like some MSQ, Endgame Dungeons, Endgame raids, things of that nature.

From the wording in the Live Letter Digest it sounds less like they are making it (in whatever future patch they add the stuff) so you can do current dungeons with a NPC squadron and more like it will be it's own separate set of things to do.

I am thinking guild heist or early ARR dungeons. Or SE will make new dungeons for platoons for you to do

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Originally Posted by MaethusXion

My only real question is are they customize-able like Retainers (race/gender/looks/etc)

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I think it will be like retainers and story companion during 1.x
Fixed gender/race/appearances/job, but many different types to choose.

https://youtu.be/-X7KZ-aOVyY?t=222
https://youtu.be/MEFovSNMotI?t=484

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Originally Posted by Derio

I am thinking guild heist or early ARR dungeons. Or SE will make new dungeons for platoons for you to do

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Grand Company instances we will do for Grand Company story missions, my guess

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Originally Posted by Derio

I am thinking guild heist or early ARR dungeons. Or SE will make new dungeons for platoons for you to do

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Or possibly sections from those dungeons.

On one hand "adding content which you can enjoy by bringing your squadron to dungeons" can be read as the content is the systems that let you bring squadrons to currently available dungeons, or as content that uses dungeon areas in a way that is unique to the Squadron system (the MSQ has done this, sending you into dungeon areas without it being the actual dungeon).

I'm hesitant to think it will replace grouping with others in the DF...but on the other hand, part of the strong "encouragement" to use the duty finder and thus run dungeons is to help players get through required group content at a reasonable pace, which is something a Squadron could help with...

But on the other other hand, leading your own group of GC NPCs is the kind of thing that feels like it will require a higher rank in the GC, which requires running later dungeons and higher levels and being past significant sections of ARR in particular already.

So I think the current signs point it to being it's own branch of content for solo players that gives rewards that make it worth it for those solo players.

Sergeants lead squads and Lts or Captains lead platoons. Unless they are giving us 30+ subordinates, we uave plenty rank for these squads.