Are the relic/anima weapons even trying anymore?

This is probably the happiest I've been with my weapon (WHM) since the original Thyrus, so I'm quite content with it.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

Relics as of now they're just Glamours, i wouldn't bother with them unless you want the Glamour.

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Relics are invaluable for healers, especially if they're raiding. The accuracy you can meld on it means we can finally stop missing without using half overmelded accessories.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

Relics as of now they're just Glamours, i wouldn't bother with them unless you want the Glamour.

No matter if you're casual or hardcore it's the same, they're just glamours, even for people who clear A8S it's useless, it's lower ilvl than Midas weapons, even for those who got i240 Lore it's useless since they came out 3 months later.

The i240 Anima would have been relevant if it was released in 3.2, even for casuals it brings little to no meaning besides being a Glamour, most casuals don't even raid, so they don't need the difference in DPS from i230 to i240, that is if they can even DPS properly to see the difference.

If you really want the Glamour but you don't like a step all you can do is wait for nerf.

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Aren't you a happy little ray of sunshine...

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Originally Posted by Chirol86

Relics are invaluable for healers, especially if they're raiding. The accuracy you can meld on it means we can finally stop missing without using half overmelded accessories.

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I'd actually recommend NOT putting accuracy on a healer relic. If a person already has accuracy melded, then it serves no real puropose other than re-melding all your gear. And when next tier rolls out, the accuracy relic will only see use until the first weapon upgrade is available. Likely a 250 Triad weapon on 3.4 launch, or worst case a couple weeks into the tier for a new tome weapon. At which point anyone pushing content will place the relic on a retainer until 2 months before 4.0 when the relic steps catch up to final Alexander ilvls, and have to meld accuracy on all their gear anyways. Anyone more concerned with saving gil than pushing content can certainly use their accuracy relic to heal with all the way until the other 6 members of a group have 270 weapons, and the only people left for a final Gobdip would be the healers, but at that points you'd again have to remeld gear for accuracy.

IMO it's easier and more flexible to just put your best healing secondaries on the relic, and not have anything holding you back from upgrading your weapon when the opportunity arises.

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Originally Posted by Chirol86

Relics are invaluable for healers, especially if they're raiding. The accuracy you can meld on it means we can finally stop missing without using half overmelded accessories.

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You're missing my point, relics came out 3 months later, and they bring nothing new with them, if you were a raider you had the melded accessories already, not having the relic didn't stop people from clearing raids did it?

i240 has been round since 3.2 too now that we're at it.

The Sultan's Fists slowly grew on me, if anything they could at least make the blades longer so they look like scythes when unsheathed.

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Originally Posted by Tracewood

The Sultan's Fists slowly grew on me, if anything they could at least make the blades longer so they look like scythes when unsheathed.

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That being said, I'm interested to see what the Hellfire Striker set looks with the Zeta Kaiser Knuckles.

From what I've seen they are all gorgeous. Sounds like OP has relic envy.

Very happy with mine so far.

I must say those some of them really are standing out. Bard for example is stunning. Dark Knight is also very impressive.

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Originally Posted by HaelseMikiro

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This isn't true. With fully melding 240 (with VIT right side), you stand at 606 accuracy, no food. There's no reason to re meld. I personally don't mind waiting a couple months for a relic to be relevant if it means I can swap from my overmelded crafted accessories, as realistically in a midcore group, at that point I'm either on the second to last floor of the fight and close to clearing or the last floor itself, with the assumption that something like A6S doesn't happen again. A relic with accuracy melded still serves purpose to midcore raiders.

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

Relics as of now they're just Glamours, i wouldn't bother with them unless you want the Glamour.

No matter if you're casual or hardcore it's the same, they're just glamours, even for people who clear A8S it's useless, it's lower ilvl than Midas weapons, even for those who got i240 Lore it's useless since they came out 3 months later.

The i240 Anima would have been relevant if it was released in 3.2, even for casuals it brings little to no meaning besides being a Glamour, most casuals don't even raid, so they don't need the difference in DPS from i230 to i240, that is if they can even DPS properly to see the difference.

If you really want the Glamour but you don't like a step all you can do is wait for nerf.

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I'm gonna say that the +1 Weapon damage on the SCH book is worth less than the +120 ACC from the Relic, which also allows for 90+ more crit on your gear at the cost of 90 piety. :D

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Originally Posted by RobbieH

You're missing my point, relics came out 3 months later, and they bring nothing new with them, if you were a raider you had the melded accessories already, not having the relic didn't stop people from clearing raids did it?

i240 has been round since 3.2 too now that we're at it.

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Why yes I did! But I also had 3 i240 jewels sitting in my inventory rotting, because if I used them, I would go under the accuracy cap. BECAUSE of this relic I was able to upgrade out of my overmelded greens to my 240 set (i239 now since the weeping top > i240 top)