1. Because only like 1% of the community raids.
2. Why do you even care what the casual community gets in terms of gear level? Do you really have to stroke your internet ego and be like "all my gear is more powerful than yours because I RAID"?
3. Says who? The forums? Reddit? People are always more vocal about complaints than praise on the internet. If you're bored of the game that's a personal problem. You don't speak for everyone.
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07-02-2016, 10:23 PMAshelia_Ferron
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07-02-2016, 10:29 PMAsmodai1. Because raiding in this game is bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
2. Why do you care what raiders get? Why do casuals need raid level gear, its a point you just brought up, gear for gears sake is not worth anything.
3. A lot of people on the forums, on reddit and in game. -
07-02-2016, 10:33 PMAzraelReason why only 1% of the community raids is because there is almost 0 incentive to do it, and most raiders are leaving/will leave this game for other MMOs with better endgame.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
I raided hardcore in every MMO, I also raided on FFXIV, cleared T13 in 2.0 and bismarck/ravana in 3.0, then I just stopped, until recently where I cleared the last EXs (the weapon bismarck dropped was a joke compared to the huge dps check needed you beat him, it was only needed to unlock ravana).
I played outside of this one but I don't feel like doing it in FFXIV because I think it's just a waste of time considering the itemization that we get here, no need to put in so much effort and stress myself with raiding if I can achieve the same just by doing some experts and 1 24 man faceroll raid each week. -
07-02-2016, 10:34 PMAshelia_Ferron1. Then don't do it. Your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Asmodai
2. I don't. Because I raid for FUN. The only real reason to raid. Shouldn't need a carrot on a stick to incentivize you.
3. That's called hearsay. No sources. And again, the people vocalize complaints on the internet more so than praise. The people who don't have these issues with the game are just playing it -
07-02-2016, 10:41 PMAshelia_FerronWhich means your only incentive in this game is gear progression, so I'm surprised you play at all. By your logic, I shouldn't play until 3.4 when new tome gear comes out and just get that instead of upgrading Lore.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azrael
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07-02-2016, 10:43 PMAzraelI'll just quote yourself from the previous post. This is YOUR opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
Raiding should give some kind of rewards outside of doing it for the glory, which nobody will care anyway because they already got the same gear as you.
There is another complaint topic that reached almost 50 pages, so there must be issues.Quote:
The people who don't have these issues with the game are just playing it
Reason why you don't see many complaint topics is because you can't post on this forum if you are not subscribed to the game, and the people that left because of boredom can't.
In fact I know some friends that got 700+ days of playtime and I only got about 300, even if we started together, I took so many breaks from this game that I don't even remember I only come back in hope that sometimes something will change, there aren't good alternatives at the moment but don't worry, there will be.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
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07-02-2016, 10:54 PMAshelia_Ferron
1. Go play another game then that does reward you.
2. And how much of those 50 pages is the same 2-3 people going back and forth, similar to how this thread is turning out? Page count means nothing. Especially considering that this game has thousands of players and a 50 page thread would have, at most, 250 different users posting. Not even 1% of the player base.
3. Good for you then. It'll be nice when a new game that does fit your needs comes along so that your opinion can go somewhere else -
07-02-2016, 10:58 PMAzraelAs you said people that got no issues with the game aren't here but are playing the game. So I can't see why you joined this discussion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron
The forums are here to give feedback and i'll play whatever I want as long as I pay, your point 1 is just a cheap excuse to try to prove your point, it's old.
You are a relatively new player considering your join date and your character, you can't understand the issues are going on this game since years.
Now if you really enjoy this game just stop wasting time here instead of answering here. -
07-02-2016, 11:11 PMAshelia_FerronBecause I\\'m not at home, can\\'t play or else I would be. The only reason I ever visit these forums is if I\\'m unable to playQuote:
Originally Posted by Azrael
If you\\'re going to continue to pay and play regardless of your so called issues with the game, then they\\'re not serious enough to address. If people ACTUALLY boycott, you might see the changes you\\'re looking for
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07-02-2016, 11:21 PMMihaelBIt sounds like you play for the sake of gear and not for the sake of raiding. If you love raiding, you'll do it despite what incentives it provides.Quote:
Originally Posted by Azrael
The point of the expert roulette/ 24man face rolls is so casuals can attempt the raids. If you love raiding so much, you wouldn't need to bother and would attempt it before the gear progression even comes into play.
Personally I don't think it's 'hardcore' to get the easiest gear and then do the raids. The hardcore ones are the world firsts trying to do it with sub-par standard gear.
Everything in this game technically is a 'waste of time', it's just how much you enjoy wasting it. If you don't, then I don't know why you've subscribed since May 2011.