Does Royal Authority kinda bug anyone else?

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Haven't played my pally in a while, but you are right, when I played Pally, DRK or Warrior the damages were abou equal. I just know Pallies have the "lowest" strength but they are still viable. I have no problems with any tank, where as others can't stop bitching, lol, This post is more about something that confounded me, more than made me wanna "bitch" about how "broken" something is, lol.

At least this post went better than the one I made in the healer section, like no one got what I meant at all, like AT ALL.

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They got what you meant, but your point was moot anyway.

There's nothing "odd" about the different shield potencies, just as there's nothing odd about RA being off the enmity combo.

You're just making a big deal out of it for no reason

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Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron

They got what you meant, but your point was moot anyway.

There's nothing "odd" about the different shield potencies, just as there's nothing odd about RA being off the enmity combo.

You're just making a big deal out of it for no reason

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I wasn't making a big deal, or not trying to. They didn't get what I was asking and I'm not sure how many people do. Basically my question in its basic form is this,.

Say, this particular "thing" seems odd to me for "this and this" reason, does it seem odd to anyone else?

My questions about Royal Authority, and Adloquium/Aspected Benefic are the SAME. The only difference is that I am comparing 2-3 individual skills in one thread and one skills placement in a combo tier, in comparison to the other similar jobs, in the other. I am not making a big deal out of anything, I was asking people opinions. No one has to feel the same way as me, and I don't expect them to. Its as simple as, do you like this shirt, yes or no.

Also I noticed we are in the same LS, so yay to that, XD.

Well they're not really the same question because situationally both these scenarios are different.

For example, Adlo only seems weird to you because they buffed AST without touching mp costs and the cost of A.B. is referenced to WHM Regen AND SCH adlo, instead of SCH Adlo alone.

And RA is attached to Savage since, at least for me, it allows an MT PLD to stave off hate generated from a WAR (whose highest potency combo is their main enmity combo). I MT A5S and I guarantee my WAR OT would rip hate if I wasn't doing those Savage blades

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Originally Posted by Ashelia_Ferron

Well they're not really the same question because situationally both these scenarios are different.

For example, Adlo only seems weird to you because they buffed AST without touching mp costs and the cost of A.B. is referenced to WHM Regen AND SCH adlo, instead of SCH Adlo alone.

And RA is attached to Savage since, at least for me, it allows an MT PLD to stave off hate generated from a WAR (whose highest potency combo is their main enmity combo). I MT A5S and I guarantee my WAR OT would rip hate if I wasn't doing those Savage blades

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I can agree to the questions not being entirely the same, though the objectivity is the same at least.

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Originally Posted by Eloah

Now while this isn't so bad, a Paladins off combo ends with an ability that creates a DoT. It's a little odd that when you try to refresh your MP that you either refresh the DoT or start a new combo.

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The Savage combos, for reference

150 Fast Blade
200 Savage Blade
260 Rage of Halone
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610 total ... 203 per GCD


150 Fast Blade
200 Savage Blade
350 Royal Authority
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700 total ... 233 per GCD

150 Fast Blade
230 Riot Blade
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380 total ... 190 per GCD


150 Fast Blade
230 Riot Blade -- then abort combo
150 Fast Blade
200 Savage Blade
350 Royal Authority
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1080 total ... 216 per GCD


150 Fast Blade
230 Riot Blade
240 Goring Blade
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620 total ... 206 per GCD

with ticks
1 tick ... 670 total ... 223 per GCD -- outperforms a Riot Blade combo abort
2 tick ... 720 total ... 240 per GCD -- outperforms midcombat Royal Authority combo
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7 tick ... 970 total ... 323 per GCD
8 tick ... 1020 total ... 340 per GCD


So if Goring Blade will tick at least once (it absolutely will, if we're considering the alternative of going back to Fast Blade instead) you do more damage reapplying it than aborting after Riot Blade.

I actually think the OP makes complete sense and I think that would be better.

Combo 1 - Fast Blade > Savage Blade > ROH

Combo 2 - Fast Blade > Savage Blade > Goring Blade

Combo 3 - Fast Blade > Riot Blade > Royal Authority

No, because losing an enmity skill on your most frequent combo means you'll end up needing to use more Halone and dropping DPS.

You're using savage blade every 3 combos to keep up goring blade. And if it's a raid, you probably want to keep halone up anyways for the debuff

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Originally Posted by Garotte14

You're using savage blade every 3 combos to keep up goring blade. And if it's a raid, you probably want to keep halone up anyways for the debuff

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Once every third combo isn't enough with good DPS, you'll end up needing to use Halone a lot more often. High uptime on Halone in raids is completely unnecessary, you only want it up before instances of really high physical damage.

Maybe just remove the enmity from savage blade and give it to fast blade instead